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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007
07:10:41 +0200 (CEST)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>From: "Karl
Eichwalder" <ke@gnu.franken.de><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Subject: [OSM-talk] Highways
with highway=steps<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>To: talk@openstreetmap.org<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Message-ID:
<51095.83.171.180.64.1190956241.squirrel@www.franken.de><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> Could someone with svn
access add highways tagged surface=unpaved to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> the mapnik and
osmarender rules files, so that they render like<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> highways tagged
highway=unsurfaced (which are rendered in mapnik but<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> not osmarender).
Surface=unpaved is listed in map features, but<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> highway=unsurfaced is
not (I presume that it is depreciated). In<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> osmarender, I would
suggest rendering unpaved highways like<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> unclassified but with
dashed borders.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> Also, could someone add
highway=secondary_link to osmarender? It isn't<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> actually in map
features, but it is widely used, and mapnik renders<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> it. It should be
rendered like highway=secondary.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>+1<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Thanks, these all are
sensible proposals. I'd like to ask to render<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>highway=steps in
mapnik. Starting with level 2 or 3 rendering should<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>be equal with highway=footway.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>+1<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Can you also get maplint to accept:-<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>ncn=yes<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>amenity=bicycle_parking<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>highway=secondary ‘with’ roundabout=true
; the combination seems to fail<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>cycleway=track / lane / opposite_track /
opposite_lane ; I think some of these tags are already accepted, but not
all<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Can osmarender render:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>mini-rounabouts only at the same zoom levels that
traffic signals are rendered (either bring traffic_signals out one, or
mini-roundabout in one)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>crossing=toucan/pelican/zebra ; the list can grow,
but this is a good start (at the same level as traffic_signals)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>amenity=toilet ; same level as zebras etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>I think all of the above should be demonstratable / testable
here:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><a
href="http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=52.05525503346746&lon=1.149540679005921&zoom=16&layers=0B00T000">http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=52.05525503346746&lon=1.149540679005921&zoom=16&layers=0B00T000</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>(Personally I would like osmarender becoming more
pedestrian focused as one gets more zoomed in with pedestrian/cyclist features getting
more attention and main roads getting less prominence). Alternatively we need a
new rendering style for pedestrians (which of course only needs to be available
for high zoom levels).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoBodyText><font size=1 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:120%'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoBodyText><font size=1 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:120%'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoBodyText><font size=1 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:120%'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoBodyText><font size=1 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:120%'>Peter<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoBodyText><font size=1 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:120%'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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