On 10/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Peter Miller</b> <<a href="mailto:peter.miller@itoworld.com">peter.miller@itoworld.com</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><br>This is great, but it would be embarrassing for the University and very<br>damaging for OSM if the data was vandalised in their patch and appeared on<br>the University web site for any length of time.<br><br>Scenario: someone fiddles with the data, goes to Oxford University Web,
<br>checks that their vandalism is visible, takes a screengrab and posts it on<br>some blog site and then loads of people follow the link back to the main<br>university site and it ends up on the TV news. Far fetched? Possibly not, I
<br>remember the CIA hack that turned it into the Central Stupidity Agency, and<br>someone could do something about as high profile using our maps.<br><br>So... is their progress on the system to allow contributors to 'watch' areas
<br>that they caretake, and an 'undo' for malicious changes? I think we need<br>that functionality asap and have a few people watch Oxford.<br><br>Personally I keep an eye on central London and on Ipswich and the only
<br>vandalism I had noticed until recently had been in central London and was<br>basically down to a small number of people scribbling across the map area<br>which wasn't even visible because it wasn't tagged, but last week I noticed
<br>that someone calling themselves 'randomjunk' had changed the name of a<br>section of Bishopsgate to 'Norton Folgate' (follow link below to see it).</blockquote><div><br>Peter<br>randomjunk is a prolific and highly regarded OSMer.
<br><br>Wikipedia revealed that "Norton Folgate is a short length of street in London, connecting Bishopsgate with Shoreditch High Street on the northern edge of its financial district, the City of London."<br><br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Folgate">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Folgate</a><br><br>So I think randomjunk is innocent ;)<br><br>80n<br> </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<a href="http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=51.520878289225685&lon=-0.081481346760652">http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=51.520878289225685&lon=-0.081481346760652</a><br>77&zoom=15&layers=B000F000<br><br>
(I will sort it out soon if no one gets to it earlier, but I would really<br>like to know if they have changed anything else as well)<br><br>I think we should make the 'watch' system a high priority if it isn't
<br>already and make it clear that only places that are 'watched' should be used<br>on public sites.<br><br>Also, the watchers could then provide a level of confidence for their areas<br>as to completeness and accuracy which could also be available to users of
<br>the maps to help them choose whether to use them.<br><br><br><br><br>Regards,<br><br><br><br>Peter<br><br><br><br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:45:45 +0200 (MEST)<br>> From: Jonas Svensson <<a href="mailto:jonass@lysator.liu.se">
jonass@lysator.liu.se</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Oxford University use without<br>> attribution<br>> Cc: <a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>> Message-ID: <
<a href="mailto:Pine.GSO.4.51L2.0710221441580.5398@nema.lysator.liu.se">Pine.GSO.4.51L2.0710221441580.5398@nema.lysator.liu.se</a>><br>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII<br>><br>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Stephen Gower wrote:
<br>><br>> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 12:22:27PM +0100, Stephen Gower wrote:<br>> > > Oxford University's new website launched this morning. Some of us<br>> > > noted that they are using OSM data (in fact, pulling tiles straight
<br>> > > off the tile server) without attribution.<br>> ><br>> > OK, attribution has appeared since I started composing that post<br>> > but the question of if there is an implication for
tile.osm still<br>> > stands, as does the flattery that that map is better than Google's!<br>><br>> We should also be aware that this is a single college, not the entire<br>> university. There seems to be a lot of maps used by the different parts,
<br>> google, OSM, scanned to PDF and so on.<br>> Still nice to see.<br>><br>> /Jonas<br>> ><br>><br>> ------------------------------<br>><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________
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