I was at SOTM 2007. My recollection of the "show of hands" that allegedly shows massive support for PD is as follows:<br><br>1. Problems with current licence were presented at length (especially attribution requirement)
<br>2. PD was presented as an alternative<br>3. Attendees were asked for a show of hands ("Who supports PD, who doesn't support PD")<br><br>In other words, at no point was there any vote on, say, CCbySA vs some not-yet-written-alternative-copyleft-data-license. Therefore I feel it is not appropriate to say "copyleft fans are in the minority" based on this flawed poll.
<br><br>Had the vote been "Shall we write a new license that fixes the attribution problem whilst retaining copyleft for the data" I am sure that would also have resulted in an overwhelming show of hands.<br><br>
Aled<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 9, 2008 1:53 PM, Frederik Ramm <<a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org">frederik@remote.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi,<br><div class="Ih2E3d"><br>> I'd like to mention, as Frederik doesn't think there are many of us,<br>> that I'm a strong supporter of copyleft.<br><br></div>I just said that there weren't many copyleft supporters at SOTM 07. Has
<br>the license panel discussion ever reached audio publication? Because I<br>believe the result of the show of hands was spoken so it should be on<br>there. Not that this would mean a lot since it is very well possible<br>
that the folks at SOTM were not representative of the general OSM<br>population. I just don't want people to have the impression that I am<br>hallucinating when I say that the copyleft fans were a tiny minority.<br><br>
To be fair, I think that the reason why many at SOTM said they'd favour<br>PD over copyleft is that the question was raised after a panel debate on<br>licensing during which people were alerted to many of the problems we
<br>face with our *current* license, including the fact that nobody knows<br>whether it holds any water, legally, at all; many may have approved of<br>PD out of sheer exhaustion ("well if nothing else works then let's just
<br>move on"). Presented with a *viable* way of achieving copyleft, they<br>might have said something else.<br><br>But this is all idle speculation; it would not be too hard to ask our<br>contributors.<br><br>Bye<br>
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