On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Bruce Cowan <<a href="mailto:lists@bcowan.fastmail.co.uk">lists@bcowan.fastmail.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 14:26 +0100, Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote:<br>
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> I've always thought that England / Scotland / Wales / Northern Ireland<br>
> forming the UK are pretty similar to the 50 states forming the USA - I<br>
> think it would be reasonable to use the same markings on the default map<br>
> to divide them.<br>
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> Legal purists may want different (or extra) tags in the database on the<br>
> grounds that it's a completely different situation, but they could be<br>
> rendered the same.<br>
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</div>For all purposes, this is probably reasonably accurate apart from the<br>
fact that one "state" has no devolution, 2 have devolution and one has<br>
further devolution. For the purposes of a map, the precise nature of the<br>
powers of each part are negligible.<br>
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I suppose technically the USA is similar as each state has different<br>
powers available to them (or I think they do).<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">--<br>
Bruce Cowan <<a href="mailto:bcowan@fastmail.co.uk">bcowan@fastmail.co.uk</a>><br>
</div></blockquote></div><br>Yes, that was the idea to begin with anyway. States rights have been steadily eroded over the years, mostly in the name of the "inter-state commerce clause" in the constitution. You'd be amazed how many things are considered to be related to "inter-state commerce". So while in the beginning the United States were intended to be a sort of federation of somewhat autonomous states, the current situation is much more centralized. The states in the US do not have the history and identity like the countries that compose the UK, so there hasn't been a strong nationalistic resistance to this centralization. What resistance there has been has generally been of the ideological sort, which just doesn't carry the same weight.<br>
<br>Sorry for the long diatribe. I'm married to a high school history teacher...<br><br>Karl <br>