<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 18 Dec 2008, at 10:52, Steve Chilton wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Equally roads don’t usually run over buildings – which could be case if reversed. Basically auto-rendering of these two can not be correct for all cases/zooms.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Needs intelligence to say “nudge that building away from the road in this instance” – later?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>Surely this is just a great example demonstrating that catography is harder than it seems at first sight. The problem is that the roads are not draw to their real width and therefore the building must be nudged or shrunk so as not to collide with the super-wide roads as rendered.</div><div><br></div><div>What we should not do is move the building outlines on the ground to make the rendering work, as far as I am concerned it is a rendering problem even if it is a hard one.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Peter<br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">STEVE<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; ">Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow<br>Manager of e-Learning Academic Development<br>Centre for Educational Technology<br><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">Middlesex</st1:placename><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:placetype w:st="on">University</st1:placetype></st1:place><br>phone/fax: 020 8411 5355<br>email:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:steve8@mdx.ac.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">steve8@mdx.ac.uk</a><br><a href="http://www.mdx.ac.uk/schools/hssc/staff/profiles/technical/chiltons.asp" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.mdx.ac.uk/schools/hssc/staff/profiles/technical/chiltons.asp</a><br><br>Chair of the Society of Cartographers:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.soc.org.uk/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.soc.org.uk/</a><br><br>SoC conference 2008:<br><a href="http://www.abdn.ac.uk/cartographers08/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.abdn.ac.uk/cartographers08/</a></span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy; "></span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org">talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org</a> [<a href="mailto:talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Nathan Mixter<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>17 December 2008 05:50<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>openstreetmap<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[OSM-talk] buildings and roads</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; ">Just wondering. Shouldn't buildings be rendered behind roads. Currently buildings are drawn above a road when the road is wide like a highway or major road. Obviously buildings don't cut into roads. If the road layer is on top this won't happen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>talk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</a><br></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></div></span></blockquote></div><br></body></html>