<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Gervase Markham <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gerv-gmane@gerv.net">gerv-gmane@gerv.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On 03/03/09 18:23, Andy Allan wrote:<br>
> We've been talking about the ODbL for a loooong time now, way more<br>
> than 18 months. It's not completely new. The previous draft was dated<br>
> April 2008. If you're new to the discussions, then welcome, but don't<br>
> make like the ODbL has never been seen before and that we're trying to<br>
> do everything in 1 month.<br>
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</div>Everything that Frederik said. There has been no interactive discussion<br>
with the editors of the licence, no formal place (as there is now on<br>
<a href="http://co-ment.net" target="_blank">co-ment.net</a>) for collating and discussing issues, no explanation of the<br>
deltas from the previous draft to this, no explanation of how it might<br>
work in a range of possible use cases, etc. etc.<br>
</blockquote><div><br>Wilson Sonsini was engaged by OSMF on October 13, 2008. <br>
<br>
Since then there has been a dialog between Jordan Hatcher and Wilson Sonsini
acting on behalf of OSMF.<br>
<br>
Other than the uses cases document, which was published at the same time
as the license, the OSMF board has not received *any* communication
from Wilson Sonsini.<br>
<br>As far as I am aware any interactive discussion between Clark Asay and Jordan Hatcher has not been documented.<br><br>80n<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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You say the licence isn't completely new. Where's the document showing<br>
the differences from the previously discussed draft, along with the<br>
rationale for why each change was made? Something like this:<br>
<a href="http://gplv3.fsf.org/rationale" target="_blank">http://gplv3.fsf.org/rationale</a><br>
(PDF document)<br>
I believe the GPLv3 process issued three or four of those, although they<br>
appear to have taken all but the final one down.<br>
<br>
Without such a document, it might as well be completely new.<br>
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Gerv<br>
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