<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 11 Mar 2009, at 12:07, Nick Black wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br> <div><br></div><div>What I'd ask is that the OSM community, particularly community leaders, look beyond slip-ups like the quotes in this article, and look at the enormous benefits that the involvement of organizations like CloudMade, GeoFabrik, ITO, AND and many of the other for-profit companies who are using OSM data can bring to the project. Hold these contributions up with the contributions of the other OSM leaders - the super mappers, coders and OSM-F members how pour unknown hours into creating OSM.</div></blockquote><div><br></div>I was considering doing a post highlighting the positive benefits that CM is bringing to the project, in particular with the huge investment in building community in the USA. Compare the USA now with last October on this image and the one linked to it to see what is happening in the states. Not all of this is of course due to CM's input but their work must be part of it.</div><div><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3087316306/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3087316306/</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>There are of course still things that need to be sharpened up and I am sure they will be.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div>Peter</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"> <div><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <div><br></div><div>Happy mapping,</div><div><br></div><div>Nick</div><div><a href="mailto:nick@cloudmade.com">nick@cloudmade.com</a></div><div><a href="http://twitter.com/nick_b">twitter.com/nick_b</a><br></div><div><br> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Richard Fairhurst <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:richard@systemed.net">richard@systemed.net</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im"><br> Stephen Hope wrote:<br> > And you can't always blame the journalists, either. Once they<br> > send their copy in, the editors can have a go at it as well.<br> <br> </div>If I may speak up for editors, a lot of journalists could avoid this<br> unfortunate necessity by Actually Learning To Write.<br> <br> cheers<br> Richard<br> <br> (Incidentally, Tim is absolutely right: good, clear 'Notes to Editors' at<br> the end of releases are the way to go.)<br> <font color="#888888">--<br> View this message in context: <a href="http://www.nabble.com/Cloudmade%3A-%22We-are-the-Wikipedia-of-maps%22-tp22445658p22452008.html" target="_blank">http://www.nabble.com/Cloudmade%3A-%22We-are-the-Wikipedia-of-maps%22-tp22445658p22452008.html</a><br> Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.<br> </font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> talk mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>-- <br>Nick Black<br><a href="http://twitter.com/nick_b">twitter.com/nick_b</a><br> </div> _______________________________________________<br>talk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk<br></blockquote></div><br></body></html>