Although I've discussed the need for public footpaths to have a tag landowner=hostile maybe with signage=dilberatly_altered...<br><br>Sounds like this is cause for a mash up from another source or website(which could be set up for the purpose, or some goverment statistics etc.).<br>
<br>Someone mentioned hot or not. I overheard on irc someone mention <a href="http://scenic.mysociety.org">http://scenic.mysociety.org</a> (which appears to be connected to geograph). I think someone was going to mash it into a heat map overlaid on OSM. Would be great if they do, otrherwise I might be tempted to.<br>
<br>I am currently available for hire to survey police-state roads (following a recent success in London, see <a href="http://www.livingwithdragons.com/2009/04/high-vis-authority-and-stealth-mapping">http://www.livingwithdragons.com/2009/04/high-vis-authority-and-stealth-mapping</a>). Not sure I'm upp for rough areas yet, although being a student money and beer could tempt me.<br>
<br>Gregory.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/4/19 D Tucny <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:d@tucny.com">d@tucny.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="gmail_quote">2009/4/20 D Tucny <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:d@tucny.com" target="_blank">d@tucny.com</a>></span><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

<div class="gmail_quote">2009/4/20 Andy Allan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gravitystorm@gmail.com" target="_blank">gravitystorm@gmail.com</a>></span><div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">


<div>On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Matt Amos <<a href="mailto:zerebubuth@gmail.com" target="_blank">zerebubuth@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:31 PM, MP <<a href="mailto:singularita@gmail.com" target="_blank">singularita@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> after the wembley mapping party last year i heard suggestions of a<br>
>>> "locals=angry" tag. maybe we should expand that to include<br>
>>> "locals=violent" or "locals=heavily_armed"?<br>
>><br>
>> What happened at the Wembley mapping party?<br>
><br>
> andy and steve independently attempted to map the same road on a<br>
> council estate but both decided it might not be a wise idea. no<br>
> violence was done i think, just evil stares.<br>
><br>
> andy actually tagged it "locals=angsty", rather than "angry", but<br>
> there is a precedent :-)<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27794700" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27794700</a><br>
<br>
</div>I feel like I'm debating a "point of order" in a student union ( :-)<br>
), but the encampment^Wstreet which Steve8 and I didn't want to map<br>
was this one, a short distance away:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27693507" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27693507</a><br>
<br>
Also, if you check on the wiki, the locals=angsty is defined as<br>
implying the tag mapper=slightly_lazy and is often used on hot<br>
afternoons that bring out the worst in British council estate<br>
congregation behaviour. The tag doesn't apply during rain or winter<br>
conditions, but applies doubly shortly after football matches...<br>
</blockquote></div><div><br>After reading this thread and the comments on the diary post, I decided to see if there was any streetview there now...<br><br>So, I entered Lynton Close, Wembley into the Google Maps find box and these were the first and third results...<br>


<br><div><div><span><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=lynton+close,+wembley&vps=1&jsv=154c&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.424342,79.101563&ie=UTF8&latlng=42945511,-81211446,8277933314319449699&ei=4FnrSaawL5OyiAO7v6nNAQ&cd=1" target="_blank"><span dir="ltr">Mr T Blair</span>ý</a></span> <span> -  <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=lynton+close,+wembley&vps=1&jsv=154c&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.424342,79.101563&ie=UTF8&latlng=42945511,-81211446,8277933314319449699&ei=4FnrSaawL5OyiAO7v6nNAQ&cd=1" target="_blank">more info »</a></span></div>


<div><span dir="ltr"><span>10 Downing Crescent</span>, <span>London</span>, <span>ON</span> <span>N6C</span>, <span>Canada</span></span>ý - <span dir="ltr"><span>+44 7866 607197</span></span>ý<div>
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<div><div><span dir="ltr">"The Committee will continue to keep all the issues covered by the Sixth Report under <b>close</b> review, while also continuing to fulfil its terms of reference by <b>...</b>"</span> <span><a style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);" href="http://maps.google.com/local_url?q=http://archive.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/standards/publications/6th_report/correspondence/neill_blair.html&dq=lynton+close,+wembley&f=q&source=s_q&output=js&hl=en&geocode=&vps=1&jsv=154c&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.424342,79.101563&s=ANYYN7kCez7hisFRCZIbWnItF_cyjINxcA" dir="ltr" target="_blank">cabinetoffice.gov.uk</a></span></div>


</div></div></div><br> <br><div><div><span><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=lynton+close,+wembley&vps=1&jsv=154c&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.424342,79.101563&ie=UTF8&latlng=42945511,-81211446,1473789639052526619&ei=4FnrSaawL5OyiAO7v6nNAQ&cd=3" target="_blank"><span dir="ltr">Gordon Brown's</span>ý</a></span> <span> -  <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=lynton+close,+wembley&vps=1&jsv=154c&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.424342,79.101563&ie=UTF8&latlng=42945511,-81211446,1473789639052526619&ei=4FnrSaawL5OyiAO7v6nNAQ&cd=3" target="_blank">more info »</a></span></div>


<div><span dir="ltr"><span>10 Downing Crescent</span>, <span>London</span>, <span>ON</span> <span>N6C</span>, <span>Canada</span></span>ý - <span dir="ltr"><span>+32 2 298 75 00</span></span>ý<div>
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<div><div><span dir="ltr">"I
am writing this over the Christmas Break, (the copy dates are a month
in advance of publication) and, as our Epetition to the Prime Minister
has just <b>closed</b>, <b>...</b>"</span> <span><a style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0);" href="http://maps.google.com/local_url?q=http://www.sportsmansassociation.co.uk/%3Fp%3D25&dq=lynton+close,+wembley&f=q&source=s_q&output=js&hl=en&geocode=&vps=1&jsv=154c&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.424342,79.101563&s=ANYYN7kQNn5Eq-2wU6NK27oX63h2kwuyfg" dir="ltr" target="_blank">sportsmansassociation.co.uk</a></span></div>


</div></div></div></div></div><br>Off topic, but, what a crazy combination of information google have put together there that I found amusing :)<br><br>There's still no street view there, but, google's aerial imagery is pretty high resolution...<br>


<br>Teleatlas seem to have it fully mapped, including a side road within the area (as seen on google), but perhaps they used the aerial imagery... Navteq, as seen on yahoo didn't seem to want to go near it and it appears made a guess at the angle and length too...<br>

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</font></blockquote></div></div><div><br>And some more info...<br><br><a href="http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/7600/response/16925/attach/3/lb_brent_cameras_d8_30092008.xls" target="_blank">http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/7600/response/16925/attach/3/lb_brent_cameras_d8_30092008.xls</a><br>

<br>Describes 'The Travellers Site, Lynton Close' as a location of a CCTV camera...<br><br>d<br><br></div></div><br>
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