<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 16 Jul 2009, at 13:48, Sam Vekemans wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hi all,<br>+1 for having a revert button only for your own (personal) changsets.<br>With no button requesting a change revert. .. just message that person, in a friendly way.<br>Most of the time it's a newbie who is just learning. :-)<br></blockquote><div><br></div>Umm.. Not everyone is that friendly and we need more powerful medicine for those occasions.</div><div><br></div><div>We have a persistent and very destructive mapper in the UK. We have reverted most of his edits from June by hand. I messaged him politely in June without a response. He reappeared in July and is now breaking roads, rivers and railways and adding stray bits of visible rubbish most days. All of this stuff is majorly destructive:-</div><div><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/liam123/edits">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/liam123/edits</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I think we need a number of things pretty fast.</div><div><br></div><div>1) A way to view quickly determine the nature of any change-set - did the change set add any new ways/nodes? did it add tags to ways/nodes? change values in tags? delete ways/node? delete tags? - that sort of stuff. I would like to see all the changes textually and also as a map and be able to see the history of each feature with similar information available.</div><div>2) A way to for people to patrol for edits by new contributors in an area on a real-time basis and a way for experienced mappers to indicate that a newbie's changesets has been checked and are ok or not.</div><div>3) An RSS feed to monitor a users edits to watch for new activity. Got it, we have that one - thanks</div><div>4) A way to revert a change-sets quickly before people put stuff on top or try to repair (I would also like to opportunities to complete the revert even if work has subsequently been done on some of the touched features)</div><div>5) A way to see which change-sets have been reverted recently within an area and by whom</div><div>6) A way to revert the revert etc</div><div>7) A way for people spot revert wars (ie users doing many reverts or areas with many reverts)</div><div>8) Community guidelines on only using revert for blatant vandalism rather than just because you preferred it as is was - (assume food intentions and build if in doubt)</div><div>9) A way to request a block on the IP address for a short period if vandalism is coming from unique static IP address</div><div>10) I would also like a publicly available talk page for a user where people can leave public messages for the user and for other people to read. This would need to be a wiki page so problems could be removed, but it would allow a place to talk in semi-public about issues which is sometimes useful.</div><div><br></div><div>I think all of the above is the what we need to have to make it work from a community perspective as well as from a technical perspective.</div><div><br></div><div>Do be aware that a vandal is very unlikely to sign the new license so at present it is important that we remove the edits rather than repair on top of edits.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Peter Miller</div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"> <br><blockquote style="border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; position: static; z-index: auto; " class="gmail_quote">(If we had a "revert" button next to a changeset, and I agree with the<br> cautious voices who said that this is quite unlikely to work once a few<br> hours or days have passed, then I would probably enable that button only<br> for the user who committed the original change, and anyone else who<br> clicks the button would just send a message to that user saying "please<br> revert your change".)<br><br> Bye<br><font color="#888888">Frederik</font></blockquote><div><br>From my experience, the user who did the upload. .. ie, if i uploaded something that i realize that more nodes were added than needed. Having an easy way for me to fix that is helpful.<br> I found that once i notified users of what was done, they (themselves) would probably appreciate the ability for them to revert their mistake (since now becoming aware of it). ie. in the case of copyright maps. <br><br> For example, im now fixing up some of the stuff i added for my sample area. My changesets are in a logical order. So i'd like the ability to be able to 'undo', something i did last week.<br>So if other edits where made ontop of some of the changes, a list can be made available of those conflicts. But all the other stuff (breadcrumbs) can be reverted. (some of my polygons might have extra nodes, that i dont know of yet)<br> <br>Cheers,<br>Sam<br></div> _______________________________________________<br>talk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk<br></blockquote></div><br></body></html>