So...<br> "gravel" is already defined in the discussion page.. we can copy that over.<br><br>and "loose_gravel" and "compacted_gravel" also have clearly defined definitions... can be copied over. these are 2 sub-types of gravel... alternatively tagged "surface=gravel"; "gravel:type=loose"<br>
"gravel:type=compact"<br><br>the definition of 'dirt' refers primarily to "soil that is on the ground". we can add that in the box. (and 'earth' is another term for 'soil')<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirt">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirt</a><br><br><table class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td><strong class="selflink">surface</strong>
</td><td> <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Tag:surface%3Dearth&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Tag:surface=earth (not yet written)"> earth</a></td><td> <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Mf_way.png" class="image" title="Image:Mf_way.png"><img alt="Image:Mf_way.png" src="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/images/6/6a/Mf_way.png" border="0" width="20" height="20"></a> <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Mf_area.png" class="image" title="Image:Mf_area.png"><img alt="Image:Mf_area.png" src="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/images/8/83/Mf_area.png" border="0" width="20" height="20"></a>
</td><td> Probably the same as surface=ground
</td></tr></tbody></table><br>should be change to the same as surface=dirt<br><br>the current tag list in the chart of 'map features is not adequate.<br><table id="sortable_table_id_2" class="wikitable sortable" border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tbody><tr class="odd"><td><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface" title="Key:surface">surface</a>
</td><td> paved / unpaved / asphalt / concrete / paving_stones /
cobblestone / metal / wood / grass_paver / gravel / pebblestone / grass
/ ground / earth / dirt / mud / sand / ice_road
</td><td> <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Mf_way.png" class="image" title="way"><img alt="way" src="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/images/6/6a/Mf_way.png" border="0" width="20" height="20"></a>
</td><td> Apply to all types of highways. If the tag is not present, it is assumed <tt style="background-color: rgb(224, 224, 240);"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface" title="Key:surface">surface</a>=<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Tag:surface%3Dpaved&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Tag:surface=paved (not yet written)">paved</a></tt>, excepted for <tt style="background-color: rgb(224, 224, 240);"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway" title="Key:highway">highway</a>=<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dfootway" title="Tag:highway=footway">footway</a></tt> and <tt style="background-color: rgb(224, 224, 240);"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway" title="Key:highway">highway</a>=<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrack" title="Tag:highway=track">track</a></tt>. (sealed/unsealed outside UK).
</td><td>
<br></td><td>
<br></td></tr></tbody></table><br>it needs to be broken down into it's own category above that all the other main tags have, by actually showing the surface as 18 rows, is a lot smarter. :)<br>... and it is NOT assumed surface=paved. .. we don't ASSUME :) .. instead we have "If no other values of surface is listed, the default value is "surface=paved" ... but actually, it should be "surface=undefined", as the default value if none are listed.<br>
<br>I think using the simple definition from wikipedia or wikitionary for each of the missing definitions should be fine.<br><br>Anyway, i don't know how to add in more rows with a new sub section.<br><br>I have not no heard any objections to this yet. So it would be great to see this moved forward.<br>
<br>Cheers,<br>Sam<br><br clear="all">Twitter: @Acrosscanada<br>Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans">http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans</a><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Courtland Yockey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:courtland.yockey@mindspring.com">courtland.yockey@mindspring.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Thread: Sam Vekemans (12/08/2009) > Craig Wallace (12/08/2009) > Sam<br>
Vekemans (12/08/2009)<br>
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Regarding excerpt:<br>
<br>
> Yes, that is exactly what i am referring too.<br>
> We ALSO need to have a special wiki page (that lists each of these things,<br>
> and how they are rendered, and used. This will alleviate the problem.<br>
> Since these 3 or 6 other values are common, it should be easy to make<br>
pages<br>
> for each of them and put 'status=in use'.<br>
><br>
> Having these values (this goes with many other 'values') listed as just a<br>
> short description on a chart is not good enough. Each value needs to be<br>
> properly defined, with rendering examples and pictures. Otherwise, we<br>
can<br>
> continue talking about air, until the mars rovers stop working.<br>
><br>
<br>
New content:<br>
A starting point would be to properly populate the table at<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface</a> rather than starting a new<br>
set of Wiki pages right off. Thereafter, this page could be whittled down<br>
to a navigational aid to detailed treatments of particular values as needed.<br>
--ceyocke<br>
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