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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265200712-15082009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Ed</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265200712-15082009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>1. I think that it is designation=public_footpath,
foot=yes, bicycle=permissive unless (a) it is a public bridleway, or (b) signed
to indicate that a local authority has added bicycle rights (as they may -
although this seems to happen almost always only in urban
areas).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265200712-15082009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>2. But if 1(a) or 1(b) applies then I would say
designation=public_footpath, foot=yes, bicycle=yes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Magneto color=#0000ff size=2>Mike Harris</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Ed Loach [mailto:ed@loach.me.uk]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> 15 August 2009 13:01<BR><B>To:</B>
talk@openstreetmap.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path
vs. footway<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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a public footpath which the council has converted into a cycleway (part of a
future cycle network if the council ever commit funds to complete their decade
old plan) which is segregated in some sections and unsegregated in others is
possibly a footway with bicycle=permissive?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
think I’ve currently got it tagged as a cycleway with
designation=public_footpath (as the public footpath signs are still there,
despite the “upgrade”). <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
Jason Cunningham [mailto:jamicubat@googlemail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 15
August 2009 00:41<BR><B>To:</B> Nick Whitelegg;
talk@openstreetmap.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of
path vs. footway</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><BR>After looking at the British Ramblers Association
website today it does not appear cyclists have equal rights on Bridelways.
This website give advice on access rights to footpaths etc in the UK, and it
says<BR>"Pedal cyclists have a right to use bridleways, restricted byways
and byways open to all traffic, but on bridleways they must give way to
walkers and riders. <B>Like horse riders, they have no right to use
footpaths and if they do so they are committing a trespass against the owner
of the land, unless use is by permission (<A
href="http://www.ramblers.org.uk/info/britain/footpathlaw/footpathlaw2.htm#trespass">see
Q26</A>)</B>. As with horse-riding (<A
href="http://www.ramblers.org.uk/info/britain/footpathlaw/footpathlaw.htm#horses">see
Q10</A>), use of any right of way by cyclists can be controlled by traffic
regulation orders and byelaws imposed by local authorities. Infringement of
byelaws or orders is a criminal offence. Under the Highways Act 1835, it is
an offence to ride a bicycle on the pavement at the side of a road, and
under the Fixed Penalty Offences Order 1999 a person who rides on a pavement
can be fined on the spot by a police officer."<BR><BR>Jason<BR><A
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Jamicu">jamicu</A><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>