On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:57 AM, John Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:deltafoxtrot256@gmail.com">deltafoxtrot256@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">2009/9/21 Anthony <<a href="mailto:osm@inbox.org">osm@inbox.org</a>>:<br>
> Fine. You can add "maximum height" along with "maximum speed" to your list<br>
> of lane-specific data.<br>
><br>
> I don't find it very important, but if you want to allow for this, without<br>
> messing up anyone else, feel free.<br>
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</div>I don't find people tagging botanical names on plants useful either,<br>
but they're doing it because they feel it is important.<br>
<br>
At present I am not easily able to tag individual lanes, but would<br>
love to be able to do it.<br></blockquote><div><br>I'd love for you to be able to do it. Come up with a way to do it that doesn't require rewriting all the editors, all the routing software, and combining multiple ways into single ways, and we can both be happy.<br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">
>> Ever been on a bridge with dynamic lane changes depending on time of day?<br>
><br>
> Yes.<br>
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</div>At present how exactly would you tag it?<br></blockquote><div><br>Give me an exact situation, and give me your exact proposed solution.<br><br>If we're talking about the Walt Whitman Bridge, with its "zipper barrier" (<a href="http://www.phillyroads.com/crossings/walt-whitman/img12.gif">http://www.phillyroads.com/crossings/walt-whitman/img12.gif</a>), it could be represented presently as four ways, two in each direction, with time restrictions so that at any time only two ways are open.<br>
<br>That's not how I'd tag it, though. I'd probably tag it as two ways with 3.5 lanes each. Because I don't think the current mapping software would like the four way solution, and I don't want to break anything. Ultimately, if we can get the mapping software to support it, I'd prefer the four way solution, though.<br>
<br>That's an interesting scenario, though. I'm interested in hearing your solution. You might even be able to convince me that you're right, if you're specific enough.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">> So you think those examples should all be represented as a single way?<br>
><br>
> That's horrible.<br>
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</div>What exactly is so horrible about it exactly, they are all part of the<br>
same physical way, but there is various lanes and being able to tag<br>
them individually would make a lot more sense than trying to plot<br>
multiple parallel ways.<br></blockquote><div><br>They're not part of the same physical way.<br><br><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&ie=UTF8&ll=40.727889,-74.100804&spn=0.002041,0.003825&t=h&z=18">http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&ie=UTF8&ll=40.727889,-74.100804&spn=0.002041,0.003825&t=h&z=18</a><br>
<br>Two ways. One bridge.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">> <a href="http://bikelaneblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/pulaski-bridge-walkway.jpg?w=324&h=241" target="_blank">http://bikelaneblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/pulaski-bridge-walkway.jpg?w=324&h=241</a><br>
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> One bridge or two?<br>
><br>
> If it's one, then you are off-topic.<br>
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</div>Please explain exactly how that is two bridges, it's physically one<br>
bridge with multiple lanes even if one of those lanes isn't for cars.<br>
</blockquote></div><br>It's two ways and one bridge.<br><br><a href="http://www.treehugger.com/bike-commuters-on-bridge-with-heavy-traffic.jpg">http://www.treehugger.com/bike-commuters-on-bridge-with-heavy-traffic.jpg</a><br>
<br>Two ways, one bridge.<br><br><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&ie=UTF8&ll=40.727889,-74.100804&spn=0.002041,0.003825&t=h&z=18">http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&ie=UTF8&ll=40.727889,-74.100804&spn=0.002041,0.003825&t=h&z=18</a><br>
<br>Two ways, one bridge.<br><br>If you disagree with that last one, then you're proposing to undo a whole lot of work that people have done.<br>