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color=#0000ff size=2>Right to roam in England and Wales exists only on Open
Access Land - which is most unlikely to be cropped. Elsewhere our rights are
only on public highways (which include public rights of way) or by permission.
Where a public right of way crosses a crop it is likely to be a trespass too go
around the crop (off the right of way) but there is a legal right to walk
through the crop (and a legal duty on the tenant or landowner to reinstate the
right of way through the crop).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>It would be great to get the field boundary data as in
farmed rural areas this is the most useful means of navigation (other than a
GPS!), the greatest use I make in the field of OS 1:25k mapping and - for me -
the greatest lacuna in OSM! Beyond actual surveying by bearings from points
where I have the right to be (which is always going to be a slow, laborious and
incomplete process) I cannot see a practical solution other than open-source
aerial/satellite photography.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=484413805-24092009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>OS one-inch (or 1:50k) mapping does not show field
boundaries. But is anyone working on out-of-copyright 1:25k (or larger scale)
mapping?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Magneto color=#0000ff size=2>Mike Harris</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Jack Stringer
[mailto:jack.ixion@googlemail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 23 September 2009
22:07<BR><B>Cc:</B> talk@openstreetmap.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OSM-talk]
Field boundaries<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P>Well if somone does map the fields please could they put the gates on
there. It would be nice to route people to the nearest gate. We do have the
right to roam but those of who live in the countryside have always had that
option we just used our common sense by not walking down the middle of
crops.</P>
<P>I keep thinking there must be a way to get the field data from the farmers
if only it was to sit down and draw from a walking street map.<BR></P>
<P>Jack Stringer</P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On Sep 23, 2009 2:39 PM, "Ed Avis" <<A
href="mailto:eda@waniasset.com">eda@waniasset.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>
<P><FONT color=#500050>Someoneelse <lists <at> <A
href="http://mail.atownsend.org.uk">mail.atownsend.org.uk</A>> writes:
>>In the UK, certainly large-scale Ordnance ...</FONT></P>Hmm, perhaps
then tracing it from out-of-copyright maps is not such a bad
idea...<BR>Although most likely the one-inch maps currently emerging from
copyright do not<BR>have the field boundaries.<BR>
<P><FONT color=#500050>>That doesn't mean >they don't have some other
more accurate data in a format not readily >reprod...</FONT></P>Hmm,
where do you see field information on that?<BR>
<P><FONT color=#500050>>In areas where there's complete public access
(Open Access Land) </FONT></P>Ah yes, Open Access...<BR><<A
href="http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/ourwork/enjoying/places/openaccess/"
target=_blank>http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/ourwork/enjoying/places/openaccess/</A>><BR>lets
you see these areas superimposed on OS maps, but I didn't see a<BR>place to
download the whole data set. Has anyone asked?<BR><BR>As for adding
field boundaries by doing ground surveys, I think this is<BR>too impossibly
enormous a task, even for enthusiastic OSM mappers. Perhaps<BR>we
could install GPS devices on every tractor in the country and over a
couple<BR>of years record ploughing patterns, which would let you deduce the
shape of<BR>arable fields...<BR><FONT color=#888888><BR>--<BR>Ed Avis <<A
href="mailto:eda@waniasset.com">eda@waniasset.com</A>><BR></FONT>
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