<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Dave Stubbs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:osm.list@randomjunk.co.uk">osm.list@randomjunk.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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>> as far as i can see the contributor terms definition says the same<br>
>> thing, except ...<br>
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> ...except the context is different. With CC BY-SA you are giving everyone<br>
> the same rights. With the Contributor Terms the only one to have those<br>
> rights is the OSMF.<br>
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</div>But only with the condition that they give everyone else those rights<br>
when publishing the data (via cc-by-sa or odbl). There's a slight<br>
change to attribution in that redirection which is just a<br>
formalisation of the current practice of attribution to OSM, and a<br>
wiki page for large contributors.<br>
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The only extra right you give OSMF here, over and above everyone else,<br>
is the license change part -- and that can only be initiated by OSMF,<br></blockquote><div><br>Yes, one of the major consequences is that OSMF gets to change the license.<br><br>If the value of OSM data ever gets very near the value of map data owned by companies like Navteq and Teleatlas then OSMF becomes a very tempting target. The safeguards that have been put in place (a vote of the OSMF membership and recent contributors) would be very easy to circumvent.<br>
<br>There's no safeguard, for example, that prevents the OSMF from changing the Contributor Terms. They can do that at any point in the future without any kind of vote or other formality. That's a pretty big hole in itself ....<br>
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the rest has to go to a vote of the OSM contributors. With cc-by-sa<br>
you currently give this right to Creative Commons, who think we should<br>
be using CC0 for data anyway.<br>
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Dave<br>
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