<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/12/17 Steve Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stevagewp@gmail.com">stevagewp@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="im">>In the end, OSM is a database, and how you are rendering a map is
something accessory, as "everyone" can set up the rendering the way
they want. It is the greatest strength of OSM that you can choose what
kind of rendering you can do. I think the map should deemphasized at
some point from the main site as more and more people want custom
rendering.<br><font color="#888888">
</font><br></div>I guess I will have to investigate this further, but that's really not at all how I see OSM, and not how I think the public perceives it. The diehards on this list may all have their own renderers set up at home, but that's rare. For most people, the mapnik view *is* OSM, and switching it off would be dumping OSM's biggest selling point. The world has very much moved to a cloud model, whereas what you're proposing (download the data, render it using an offline client) is exactly the opposite of that. I just don't see that approach gaining traction any more. If anything, I would have thought you'd put more effort into custom rendering on the server, like cloudmade does.<br>
<br>Of course, I could be completely wrong. That would at least explain why I find the response of "make your own stylesheet" so jarring to my original problem statement.<div class="im"><br></div></div></div></blockquote>
</div><br>I understand your point. But I disagree about the directions where things are going. Some things are going for the cloud, some will stay on your desktop. Don't necessarily believe the hype and take it with a pinch of salt. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point, people are coming up with custom cloud renderers.<br>
But for the time being, if you want a custom rendering you will be using your own pc or server. If you are interested in a relatively simple renderer, you could look at <a href="http://igorbrejc.net/kosmoshome">http://igorbrejc.net/kosmoshome</a> . This should help you and should not be too difficult to use.<br>
I look forward to some offline rendering using Halcyon personally. Being able to tweak a map just by playing with some css sounds very appealing to me.<br>I agree that for many people the map is the focal point of OSM but again, we have already two major renderers on the main site. I think it sends a clear signal that we are not just about one map but several.<br>
In the end, the power of OSM is what you do with it. The map part is not a major interest to me, but I might be one of the exception.<br><br>Emilie Laffray<br>