Hi Jordi,<br>It's great to hear that others has heard from you.<br><br>The <a href="http://gpsies.com">gpsies.com</a> website that currently donates a whole lot of GPX tracks is <br><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/stats/data_stats.html">http://www.openstreetmap.org/stats/data_stats.html</a><br>
<br><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/GPSies_com">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/GPSies_com</a><br><br>They do so by after uploading a track (a gpx file with 1 track in it), then go in to the tracks details when refining the track...<br>
<a href="http://www.gpsies.com/upload.do">http://www.gpsies.com/upload.do</a><br><br>There is an option between "Altitude Range" and "Description" to submit to OpenStreetMap, as a 'Default:User or a Specific user, and a check box to agree to the terms of use' that links to <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ</a><br>
<br>I hope that helps. <br>Sorry, i dont know how to implement that same thing.<br>AFAIK <a href="http://bikemap.net">bikemap.net</a> (and it's sister websites) doesnt do this yet, nor does <a href="http://everytrail.com">everytrail.com</a>, so your site could get the advantage. as it's much simpler to use, and with no Adds. Awesome!<br>
<br>Hopefully, there are some programmers who are able to help you out with this.<br>I would think that it would be a notice when users log in, that their is a new option available to users. The rest is up to the users to decide.<br>
<br>And oh ya, thanks for showing the OSM layers of Opencyclemap and the mapnik layer of OSM, it really help with route planning / track sharing, it's still on my list to share my route segments. :)<br><br>Cheers,<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Roman Neumüller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:r.neumuller@gmail.com">r.neumuller@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
This is a correspondence I got into with Jordi from <a href="http://wikiloc.com" target="_blank">wikiloc.com</a><br>
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From: "Jordi Ramot" <<a href="mailto:jordi.ramot@gmail.com">jordi.ramot@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: "Roman Neumüller" <<a href="mailto:email@katpatuka.org">email@katpatuka.org</a>><br>
Cc:<br>
Subject: Re: Wikiloc - User Feedback<br>
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 18:34:18 +0300<br>
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Hi Roman, I cannot say ok since trails in wikiloc are creations of each<br>
user<br>
and I think it wouldn't be fair to reproduce and mix them externally<br>
without<br>
showing explicit attribution on OSM maps.<br>
<br>
I've been thinking hard in how this could be done properly and a<br>
possibility<br>
would be to let wikiloc users to set the privacy of each trail as<br>
"private",<br>
"public in wikiloc", "transferable to OSM" etc.. and perhaps even create an<br>
API that OSM could fetch all "transferable to OSM" trails automatically.<br>
I'm<br>
overwhelmed with pending features at this moment but that could definitely<br>
be considered in the future.<br>
<br>
I hope this doesn't affect your work and hope this discussion could end up<br>
in a broader collaboration in the future<br>
<br>
Jordi<br>
<br>
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<a href="http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/user.do?name=Jordi" target="_blank">http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/user.do?name=Jordi</a><br>
<a href="http://wikiloc.com" target="_blank">wikiloc.com</a> - Trails of the World<br>
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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Roman Neumüller<br>
<<a href="mailto:email@katpatuka.org">email@katpatuka.org</a>>wrote:<br>
<br>
> no, not on the map.<br>
> you only see the tags in editors.<br>
> it's a wiki-map we are creating and not a google overlay...<br>
><br>
> OSM's license is Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license.<br>
><br>
> maybe one of your team should create an account and start editing<br>
> his/her home region on osm so that he/she then can tell osm<br>
> under which conditions osm users can use gpx-tracks uploaded to<br>
> wikiloc... - or tell us: no, you cannot use wikiloc-tracks.<br>
><br>
> Roman<br>
><br>
><br>
> Hi Roman, these tags will be explicitly visible to OSM users when they<br>
> see<br>
>> the trails on osm maps?<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my pint-sized communication device<br>
>><br>
>> On 11/05/2010, at 19:57, Roman Neumüller <<a href="mailto:email@katpatuka.org">email@katpatuka.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Jordi,<br>
>>><br>
>>> this sounds a bit odd to me...<br>
>>> I do not know which agreement you have with google - osm is not using<br>
>>> google in any way.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Which tags should I add to a way to accomplish your attributions?<br>
>>><br>
>>> * source=<a href="http://wikiloc.com" target="_blank">wikiloc.com</a><br>
>>> * source_url=<a href="http://wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=894235" target="_blank">http://wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=894235</a><br>
>>> * track_author=<a href="http://wikiloc.com/wikiloc/user.do?name=gezenkurt" target="_blank">http://wikiloc.com/wikiloc/user.do?name=gezenkurt</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Would that be ok?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers<br>
>>> Roman<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi Roman,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Sorry for being so slow in writing back to you on this. I've been<br>
>>>> discussing the situation and it'd be compatible with wikiloc terms<br>
>>>> only if<br>
>>>> the trails from Wikiloc shown on OSM make explicitly visible the 3<br>
>>>> attributions (<br>
>>>> <a href="http://wikiloc.com" target="_blank">wikiloc.com</a>, trail page and author's page) to users of OSM. We worked<br>
>>>> hard in the agreement with Google Earth to respect this attribution<br>
>>>> requirement and you can see it if you open one of Wikiloc trails on<br>
>>>> Google<br>
>>>> Earth (you'll see clearly that the source is Wikiloc (logo, link),<br>
>>>> the trail<br>
>>>> page and the trail author's page).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Hope it helps<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Jordi<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>>> I [...] let you know that I added OSM as a base layer<br>
>>>>>> last Thursday. You can switch from Google Maps to OSM by clicking<br>
>>>>>> at "More Maps" button when visualizing a track in wikiloc.<br>
>>>>> Nice :)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Please if you use some of the GPS tracks in wikiloc to map on OSM<br>
>>>>>> include a visible attribution as specified in the terms of use of<br>
>>>>>> wikiloc:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> "Attribution: When content from Wikiloc is displayed on an external<br>
>>>>>> site it must include the Wikiloc's logo or name linked to<br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://www.wikiloc.com" target="_blank">http://www.wikiloc.com</a>, a link to the track page (e.g.<br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=46602" target="_blank">http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=46602</a>)<br>
>>>>>> and the track author's name linked to his/her personal area at<br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://wikiloc.com" target="_blank">wikiloc.com</a>(e.g. 'by –Ross' linked to<br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/user.do?name=--Ross" target="_blank">http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/user.do?name=--Ross</a>)"<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> There's no requirement to be links without the rel='nofollow' as<br>
>>>>>> long as the source is clear.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> when working with ways we use tags like<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> highway=primary;<br>
>>>>> ref=D-400<br>
>>>>> name=Antalya-Mersin Yolu<br>
>>>>> source=GPS | Yahoo | landsat | survey<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> We can freely use other tags like<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> source_url=<a href="http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=46602" target="_blank">http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=46602</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Would that be applicable?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Greetings<br>
>>>>> Roman<br>
<br>
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