On the wiki, we need to clarify some places definitions after some recent (or not) changes:<br><br>place=locality:<br><br>at <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Locality">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Locality</a>:<br>
- "place tags are for either populated areas, or for larger areas of County sized or bigger" (<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Locality">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Locality</a>). What is a county ? Is it not a definition to give only in countries where this concept exists ? It seems that germans decided that it is now a populated place where it was clearly specified as unpopulated in the past:<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:place%3Dlocality&oldid=65610">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:place%3Dlocality&oldid=65610</a><br>Sorry if I missed the discussion/decision about this important point, I didn't subscribe to all country specific mailing list.<br>
<br>at <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place</a> :<br>- "Places that have a specific name, but do not necessarily have any geographic feature centre". (population = 0). Yeap, very clear, isn't it ?<br>
<br>at <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Places">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Places</a><br>- "An unpopulated, named place." which is the original definition<br><br>place=isolated_dwelling:<br>
<br>at <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place</a>:<br>- "the smallest kind of human settlement" (population = not more than 2 households). Okay, why not. I'm not against new tags, I'm against ambiguities.<br>
<br>at <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Places">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Places</a><br>- missing<br><br>place=farm<br><br>at <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place</a>:<br>
- "A distinct identified farm at the node so tagged. In some countries the
official type of a residential area smaller than a hamlet". Oh dear. But is it not "isolated_dwelling" now for "residential area smaller than a hamlet" ?<br><br>at <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dfarm">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dfarm</a><br>
- "A farm can be a part of a human settlement (<tt style="background-color: rgb(224, 224, 240); white-space: pre;" dir="ltr"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place" title="Key:place">place</a>=*</tt> like hamlet, village, town) that have buildings and land for farming, usually a few central buildings around a <tt style="background-color: rgb(224, 224, 240); white-space: pre;" dir="ltr"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse" title="Key:landuse">landuse</a>=<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmyard" title="Tag:landuse=farmyard">farmyard</a></tt> with <tt style="background-color: rgb(224, 224, 240); white-space: pre;" dir="ltr"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse" title="Key:landuse">landuse</a>=<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmland" title="Tag:landuse=farmland" class="mw-redirect">farmland</a></tt> or <tt style="background-color: rgb(224, 224, 240); white-space: pre;" dir="ltr"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse" title="Key:landuse">landuse</a>=<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow" title="Tag:landuse=meadow">meadow</a></tt>
surrounding it. If the farm is not part of a bigger settlement
(regarding structure not administration) and the farm and comprising
settlement itself is not bigger than defined for isolated dwellings in
your country, use <tt style="background-color: rgb(224, 224, 240); white-space: pre;" dir="ltr"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place" title="Key:place">place</a>=<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Disolated_dwelling" title="Tag:place=isolated dwelling">isolated_dwelling</a></tt>.". Ah okay. If it is isolated, use "isolated_dwelling". And if it is part of an hamlet, village, town, why the hell are you using a key place to name the landuse=farmland ? why not simply the tag "name=*" ? If it is a manufactory, not a farm, do you tag it landuse=industrial + place=manufactory ? I don't understand. It's probably too simple.<br>
<br>at <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Places">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Places</a><br>- missing. To avoid advertising ? ;-)<br><br>Pieren<br>