<div class="gmail_quote">2010/8/8 Dirk-Lüder Kreie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:osm-list@deelkar.net">osm-list@deelkar.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Am 08.08.2010 16:59, schrieb John Smith:<br>
<div class="im">> On 9 August 2010 00:58, Erik Johansson <<a href="mailto:emj@kth.se">emj@kth.se</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Australia 2 people per km^2<br>
>> Sweden 21 people per km^2<br>
><br>
> Canada is ~3 people per km^2...<br>
<br>
</div>You seem to forget that the most interesting Data (to most people) is<br>
also where the people are.<br>
Forests, lakes, shorelines and many more features can all be mapped from<br>
NASA sat imagery and put unter any license, even PD.<br>
<br>
So I don't think OSM Contributor effort will result in "second best"<br>
Data *at* *all*.<br>
<br>
For example: Germany does have very good geodata from the state, just<br>
that those maps are not available to OSM, so we are mapping Germany<br>
ourselves. The Netherlands (even more densely populated btw.) had most<br>
of their data imported.<br>
Has this damaged the German OSM mapping effort? Not at all. I would<br>
rather argue that the AND import has hindered OSM community growth in NL.<br>
<br>
So even if you lose data, it's not really that big an issue, provided<br>
you come up with a way to save work done by OSM Mappers wherever possible.<br>
<br>
With enough (motivated) people we can take any data loss, and rebuild<br>
our database to be better within a short timeframe.<br></blockquote><div> </div><div> Any data loss
will be a serious morale blow. Just the talk of data loss is already
having an impact. <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
It may sound arrogant, but if you look at it rationally, we could even<br>
compensate for mappers demotivated by any data loss by the growth of our<br>
community.<br></blockquote><div><br>An expectation that the community will continue to grow is unrealistic. The following figures, from
Nick Black, show a 1% drop in active contributors in one month. This suggests that the size of the community may already have
peaked. Data loss will not improve this picture.<br><br><br><blockquote style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Nick Black <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nickblack1@gmail.com">nickblack1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
Hi Guys,<br><br>
The % of users actively contributing to OSM each month has fallen<br>
from 5.7% in March 2010 (13,675 / 238,985) to 4.7% in June (297,041 /<br>
14,018).<br></blockquote>
<br><br>80n<br></div></div><br>