Ok, so in the sense of "Conspiration Theory" I use the word "theory" in the way scientists use the word "thesis", maybe I should start to call "conspiration theories" for "conspiration thesis", but than nobody would understand that I mean "conspiration theory". It is not my fault the word theory have been misquoted in so many regular expressions.<br>
<br>A<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:03 PM, John F. Eldredge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:john@jfeldredge.com">john@jfeldredge.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I think that you and I are using different definitions of "theory". I am using the scientific definition of theory, "an explanation of how a group of facts relate to each other". A theory, using that definition, continues to exist even once it has been proven. You are using the colloquial definition of theory, "unproven speculation". Using either definition, forbidding discussion of a conspiracy theory could mean that a real conspiracy would be allowed to continue. However, I do agree that discussion of conspiracy theories has the potential to swamp a discussion forum, such as this mailing list.<br>
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If you can back your claim of conspiracy by some sort of evidence than we can conclude that it is not a theory anymore, independent if it is a realy conspiracy or not. It is easy to say something in the line of "FBI plotted to assassinate JFK", but to prove it is harder, independente if they did or not.<br>
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However, should someone uncover a real conspiracy, any attempt to reveal it to others would be discussion of a conspiracy theory, and therefore forbidden. "Theory" does not mean "nonexistent"; the fact that the theory of gravity exists does not mean that gravity does not exist.<br>
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> could this be amended by "unless there is a real conspiracy"?<br>
> Otherwise our hands might be tied in case there is a conspiracy.<br>
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"no conspiracy theories" seems clear.<br>
A real conspiracy is not a theory. "conspiracy theories" are always<br>
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