<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Dave F. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davefox@madasafish.com">davefox@madasafish.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="h5">On 31/10/2010 17:08, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:<br>
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2010/10/31 Gorm E. Johnsen<osmlist@gorm.cc>:<br>
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John<br>
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I propose to replace highway=ford with ford=yes (or perhaps barrier=ford?)<br>
on nodes as well, simply to de-clutter the highway tag and to be more<br>
consistent.<br>
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What about junction=ford ?<br>
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No.<br>
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Because it's not a junction, except if you have an amphibious craft of course.<br></blockquote><div><br>My thoughts exactly. Thanks.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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I'm not sure how the highway tag is cluttered & see no real reason to change to ford=yes, but don't see a problem with it either.<br></blockquote><div> </div><div>For consistency.<br><br>One thing should be one tag. Not like its today with highway=incline on nodes and incline=* on ways, highway=ford on nodes and ford=yes on ways, highway=mini_roundabout on nodes and junction=roundabout on ways. Tagging all these on just a single node is not good, but even worse when its a different tag for way and node.<br>
<br>There is many things the higway tags is (mis)used for: amenities, traffic signs, properties etc. In general highway should probably exclusively be used on ways, not nodes.<br><br>So, yes, I think the highway tag is cluttered. So I have started "cleaning up" the long tail, starting with some of the least used.<br>
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Does this 'clutter' problem mean you'll want to amend traffic_lights/mini_roundabout nodes as well?<br></blockquote><div><br>I would personally prefer to change mini_roundabout to junction=roundabout, yes. There is a vague difference anyway. That difference can perfectly well be conveyed by the fact that it is tagged on a single node or not.. I had not considered traffic_signals, but yes it does fit into junction=. But please let us not start that discussion now. But don't worry, I won't go ahead and change 29k and 251k elements, respectively, just like that.<br>
<br>best regards<br><br></div></div>