<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ed Loach <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ed@loach.me.uk">ed@loach.me.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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But I had a look at <a href="http://fosm.org" target="_blank">fosm.org</a> yesterday and they (whoever "they" are<br>
- is there a fosmf?) </blockquote><div> </div><div>There is no fosmf, and I rather hope there never will be.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
seem to be making the same mistake that <a href="http://osm.org" target="_blank">osm.org</a><br>
did with the original CTs; should they ever need to relicense (say<br>
move from cc-by-sa 2.0 to 3.0) the data, then as far as I can tell<br>
they will need to contact all the contributors or themselves risk<br>
data loss. </blockquote><div><br>CC-BY-SA 2.0 already has an upgrade clause and there's no intention of ever changing the license. If it was every necessary it would be done the right way, by forking the project. And anyone is free to do that at any time...<br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">It would perhaps be better to have their CTs now such<br>
that it is clear that only active contributors will be contacted if<br>
such a change is required and what majority will be required for a<br>
change to happen. Perhaps this should be discussed on<br>
<a href="mailto:talk-legal@fosm.org">talk-legal@fosm.org</a> when they get as far as setting up email lists.<br></blockquote><div><br>Since <a href="http://fosm.org">fosm.org</a> is not about forking the community, only the license, I very much doubt that we'll need one of those. And I very much doubt that we'll have anything to talk about that isn't also directly applicable to OSM (tagging, mapping parties, imagery etc).<br>
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I'm also curious who counts as the contributor for all the stuff<br>
imported from OSM; presumably it counts as a single contributor's<br>
imports.<br></blockquote><div><br>No, the contributor is the person who owns the copyright. That's you for your contributions.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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Anyway, as this process has taken about 5 years so far I am glad it<br>
is reaching the end at last, and a small loss of data which with the<br>
rapid growth in the number of contributors should take little time<br>
to replace. </blockquote><div><br>If only...<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Almost all of us here joined the project after it was<br>
clear that an attribution sharealike licence applied to our<br>
contributions, and now there is such a licence that covers the data,<br>
and CTs that make any future move from say ODBL 1 to ODBL2 less<br>
painful, that can only be a good thing.<br>
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Oh, and another added benefit is that once we reach phase 5 I can<br>
probably come back on various OSM related email lists without all<br>
threads degenerating into license debates.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br></font></blockquote><div>That would be something positive.<br></div></div><br>