<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Jim Brown <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim@cloudmade.com">jim@cloudmade.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I almost hesitate to jump in, but I'd like to give the perspective from Cloudmade that I think is probably mirrored in skobbler.<br>
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In Cloudmade staff are passionate about OSM and mapping. Many of the staff wanted to join OSMF 2 years ago and we encouraged that. And we got the same reaction from some parts of the community.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br>Jim<br>My recollection was that they all got passionate about OSM on the same day, just one day before the close of email voting for that year's election. Care to comment on that?<br><br>80n<br>
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However, I can clearly state that my team (and most of them were my team) would have told me to f#%k off if I even tried to tell them how to map, hack or vote.<br>
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The employees of Cloudmade are as diverse a set of mappers as any other group of OSM members and it was down right rude at that time to view them as corporate surrogates being directed to some sinister goal. They may share some common concerns but so do lots of other collections of people in OSM.<br>
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In short I think the same thing is happening to the individuals at skobbler who are probably wondering now (like my guys did in the past) why the hell did I bother getting involved?<br>
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My $0.02 only.<br>
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Jim Brown<br>
CTO - CloudMade<br>
<a href="mailto:Jim@cloudmade.com">Jim@cloudmade.com</a><br>
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On 25 Aug 2011, at 05:34, "John Smith" <<a href="mailto:deltafoxtrot256@gmail.com">deltafoxtrot256@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 25 August 2011 22:26, Ed Avis <<a href="mailto:eda@waniasset.com">eda@waniasset.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist <at> <a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>> writes:<br>
>><br>
>>> This was completely easy in the past, but is it realistic to keep OSMF<br>
>>> "relatively unimportant" if it is rights holder for all the data?<br>
>><br>
>> It might be better to spin off a separate organization which is the rights<br>
>> holder, separate from the less contentious OSMF functions like providing funding<br>
>> to keep the servers running or organizing SoTM.<br>
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> Wouldn't spreading resources thinner only make it easier for someone<br>
> with enough money and other resources to game the system?<br>
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