<font><font face="verdana,sans-serif">The intentions don't matter here, its to be able to defend the new licensing / copyright in court you need to show all the content has come from people who have accepted the new license.<br>
<br>Its a lawyer thing and I'm not even sure that in the US OSM has a solid case anyway. Street names are facts for example.<br><br>Cheerio John<br></font></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 December 2011 16:03, Graham Jones <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:grahamjones139@gmail.com">grahamjones139@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div><div>Is the process for deciding whether or not to delete a node set in stone? I am fairly sure that I have moved the majority of those nodes from where they were originally (I am fairly sure because there was originally only 1 path on OSM going up the hill when there are 2 different paths on the ground), so surely if I moved them from their original position they can't be deleted just because the specific node id in the database was originated by someone else?? that's crazy - what's the logic behind that decision - shouldn't the check ensure that they are at least in the same place as the originator positioned them? Otherwise I can see a lot of senseless destruction and that makes me really quite sad.</div>
<div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div>I agree, it sounds mad, and I find it hard to believe that 'we' would do this. Surely we need to apply a bit of pragmatism to this and think about 'reasonableness'?</div>
<div><br></div><div>I can see that it is reasonable to delete the contributions from someone who has explicitly said that they do not agree to the new terms - that is a shame, but it is their choice.</div><div><br></div>
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>From the discussion on this list (and I have not looked into it properly - I gave up on thinking about licences when the 'debate' all got out of hand earlier in the year), it sounds as though if someone who has neither accepted nor declined the terms has touched an object, that object will be deleted - is this really the intention of those looking after this licence change?</div>
<div><br></div><div>I see there are three potential reasons for someone neither accepting nor declining the terms:</div><div><ul><li>They really do not agree with them, but for some reason that I can not think of they decide not to click the 'decline' button - These are an awkward case, but it is up to them to make their intentions clear.</li>
<li>They left the project having made their contribution and are now not contactable (changed email address etc.), or so un-interested that they do not respond.</li><li>They could be really keen OSM contributors who have since died, so are not answering their emails.</li>
</ul><div>In my opinion, it would be reasonable to assume that the last two have the best interests of the project at heart and do not want to have their contributions deleted, so they should be retained. If at some point they contact us to say that they object to their contributions being in the database, then yes, delete them, but leave them there until they do.</div>
</div><div><br></div><div>A pragmatic approach along these lines would seem quite reasonable to me, and would save a lot of un-necessary re-work - deleting contributions of people that we can not make contact with just seems excessive, and is probably not what the non-contactable contributors wanted anyway.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Graham.</div><div><br></div><div> </div></div><font color="#888888">-- <br>Graham Jones<div>Hartlepool, UK.</div><br>
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