<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 12:29 PM, ThomasB <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:toba0211@yahoo.de">toba0211@yahoo.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div id=":6xf">The example of Kosovo in the OSM Wiki that you are quoting here has been<br>
added your friend Liz, who is in favour of your view. </div></blockquote></div><div><br></div>I am sorry, it was added by mikel before I even started to work on the project.<div><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Disputes&action=historysubmit&diff=64112&oldid=64101">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Disputes&action=historysubmit&diff=64112&oldid=64101</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:11px;background-color:rgb(204,255,204);word-wrap:break-word;overflow-x:auto;overflow-y:auto">In the case where there are multiple local names, then if the government with effective and sustained control of the area has an official source of names or an</div>
<div style="font-size:11px;background-color:rgb(204,255,204);word-wrap:break-word;overflow-x:auto;overflow-y:auto"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;overflow-x:auto;overflow-y:auto">official stance on a naming dispute, then that name is default. For instance, [<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derry-Londonderry_name_dispute">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derry-Londonderry_name_dispute</a> Derry-Londonderry]When there is no clear sustained control of an area, such as [<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Kosovo">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Kosovo</a> Kosovo], special consideration will be needed on a case by case basis.</div>
</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Liz added this :</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(204,255,204)"> </span><span class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="color:red;font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none;white-space:pre-wrap;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(204,255,204)">(Kosovo now has independent government, recognised by many other countries, so this is now less relevant.)</span></div>
<div><br></div><div>So, really this is going to come down to the question if you want to offend and possibly lose the dedicate team we have built up in kosovo </div><div>and lose any value for visitors to kosovo to even use the map.</div>
<div><div><br></div><div>I can tell you that in the case of english wikipedia, the serbs have won a bunch of disputes over the naming of things, for example <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%90eravica">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%90eravica</a> or the listing of all the mountains of kosovo as being in serbia <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountains_in_Serbia">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountains_in_Serbia</a>. The result is that people in kosovo cannot hardly be motivated to contribute to the wikipedia and that might be the fate of osm in the future. I have also given up my efforts to even bother with improving wikipedia after being wikihounded and harrased by a user who was left to do that. </div>
<div><br></div><div>please can we stop the damage now and get things back to the previous status quo that was working?</div><div><br></div><div>mike</div><div><br></div><div>-- </div>James Michael DuPont<br>Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova <a href="http://flossk.org" target="_blank">http://flossk.org</a><br>
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