<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">this message bounced (too many recpt.) so i am sending it again :</font></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style>Ok people,</span><div style><br>
</div><div style>I think we agreed here on the "on the ground rule", kosovo is on the ground the republic of kosovo and not serbia. </div><div style><br></div><div style>nothing you will say will change that fact. I have been there many times, and it is its own place, they have their own passports and these are recognized by germany and usa and uk etc. </div>
<div style><br></div><div style>belgrad is not in fact control of kosovo, kosovo is its own country. </div><div style><br></div><div style>I am sure that osm wants to keep the mappers there happy so they will continue mapping.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>lets stop this game and get back to work.</div><div style>please revert the changes to the database.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/4/1 Mike Dupont <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jamesmikedupont@googlemail.com">jamesmikedupont@googlemail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">the map reflects it, <div>we have right now the admin level of kosovo as less than a country. </div><div>I noticed recently that the serbia relation contains it. </div>
<div><br></div><div>In any case, osm is right now working hard to keep the community going, </div>
<div><br></div><div>and I think that we need to make sure that the mappers are not offended when they look at their home town.</div><div><br></div><div>I can imagine that osm will lose a bunch of dedicated mappers if the continue to offend people in that manner.</div>
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<div><br></div><div>mike</div></font></span><div><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/4/1 RB <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tanrub@gmail.com" target="_blank">tanrub@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Please : I am not making anymore "bloody politics" than people claiming that the situation is damn simple. I am a swiss citizen (not a Serb) and I really like all the people in Kosovo (KOA as well as KOS and the other ethnicities). It has nothing to do with taking side or whatever, but I am just saying that is is a complicated situation and that our map should try to reflect it.<div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/4/1 Lester Caine <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lester@lsces.co.uk" target="_blank">lester@lsces.co.uk</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Mike Dupont wrote:<br>
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2012/4/1 Lester Caine <<a href="mailto:lester@lsces.co.uk" target="_blank">lester@lsces.co.uk</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lester@lsces.co.uk" target="_blank">lester@lsces.co.uk</a>>><div><div><br>
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Altin Ukshini wrote:<br>
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Does anyone care about these reports ?<br>
I said it before and I'm saying it again, we can't monitor/administer<br>
the map<br>
everyday and you know this, we don't even have enough people<br>
contributing in OSM<br>
here in Kosovo and Serbians are using this opportunity to change<br>
whatever they<br>
want in the map.<br>
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I don't think that you might want to loose contributors from Kosovo !?<br>
You have to report these violations... how much will this last until someone<br>
makes a decision ?<br>
We have already reported so many violations till now.<br>
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'Location' is somewhat hit or miss everywhere. My own diary postings give<br>
some strange textual descriptions of where they were supposed to be located.<br>
The problem here is simply that there is no clear mechanism for identifying<br>
'where' a location is, so until all of the relevant boundaries are mapped<br>
and tested in the same way as the intensive effort on getting the coastline<br>
complete it is going to be difficult to fix some of these irritations.<br>
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I've given up asking for a proper check on hierarchy place and is_in which<br>
would at least get towns in the right country ... rather than relying on the<br>
mapped boundaries ...<br>
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this has changed, it used to be kosovo.<br>
it needs to be fixed, please.<br>
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My point is ... does anybody actually know where it is broken?<br>
It is not the 'is_in' tag ... that isn't used to determine location ... last time I tried looking at this problem in the UK nobody seemed to know how the location was ACTUALLY generated :( It looks to the 'administrative boundaries' areas and so presumably someone has been playing with them? It's a pain trying to find what has been 'modified' ...<br>
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( No bloody politics here RB !!! )<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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