Richard,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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A Dutchman posted a map of the main cycle routes in Utrecht, and I asked<br>
why it looked so different to OSM/OCM<br>
<a href="http://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2012/04/23/looking-down-on-cyclists/" target="_blank">http://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2012/04/23/looking-down-on-cyclists/</a><br>
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Q: Why does the map above look different to what?s in OpenStreetMap?<br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.0924&lon=5.1317&zoom=12&layers=C" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.0924&lon=5.1317&zoom=12&layers=C</a><br>
A: The map here shows only those routes the city thinks are main routes. In<br>
reality there are far more routes and far more streets with cycling<br>
infrastructure (almost all major streets) as you can see in OpenStreetMap.<br>
The few red lines you see in OpenStreetMap are the national cycle routes<br>
but they have nothing to do with main routes in the city.<br>
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"the national cycle routes ... have nothing to do with main routes in the<br>
city"<br>
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Obviously, OCM can render what it likes, but I think this neatly<br>
illustrates that OSM tagging of cycle routes is missing a trick or two<br></blockquote><div><br>I would not agree with this criticism. <br>Routes on OSM do correspond (or should correspond) to signposted routes on the ground. There are intentionally different levels: international, national, regional, local routes.<br>
With regard to long-distance routes, these are indeed in many cases not the routes that local commuters would use. They are intended for cycle tourists. <br>Routes for commuters are a different story. Firstly, they are in most cases individual - each commuter wants to go from his home to his place of work. Secondly, I would expect that commuters or local users would end up in local or regional cycle routes (dark and light blue routes in OCM).<br>
In the Utrecht example, it's not clear whether the "main cycle routes" shown in <a href="https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2012/04/23/looking-down-on-cyclists/">https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2012/04/23/looking-down-on-cyclists/</a> are signposted routes or simply the streets/cyclepaths most used by local commuters.<br>
If the latter, than OSM cannot tag them anyway, because there is nothing on the ground that tells about routes streeets/cyclepaths preferred by the users.<br><br>A local commuter should in fact use services like cyclestreets (or the local equivalent) to establish his preferred daily commute. Occasional users should orient themselves by following signposted routes.<br>
<br>Or have I completely misunderstood your point?<br><br>Volker<br><br>(Padova, Italy)<br></div><div><br> <a href="http://opencyclemap.org/?zoom=13&lat=52.08908&lon=5.10929&layers=B00">http://opencyclemap.org/?zoom=13&lat=52.08908&lon=5.10929&layers=B00</a><br>
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Richard<br>
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