OpenStreetMap can be hard for new people to understand.<div><br></div><div>OpenStreetMap is not a company. It is a project, a community/group, and a database. It is run and supported by volunteers that contribute to the map data or to code that creates and/or uses the data.</div>
<div>There is a long list of companies, organisations, and other groups that are not "officially" part of OpenStreetMap but they use or contribute to the project.</div><div>OpenStreetMap database is free for anyone to use for their own purposes (so long as they give credit, and share improvements in the same way), they do not have to ask or tell anyone that they are using the data.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>So Open SEA Map is a group (I don't think it is a company) that uses OpenStreetMap data to create a map of sea mark icons. It also has an editor to add data back to OpenStreetMap.</div>
<div>Some people involved with OpenSeaMap also spend a lot of their time involved with OpenStreetMap. Some of them read messages on this mailing list.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The phone app is made by a company. That company uses the OpenSeaMap images and puts them on top of Google Maps for you to see in your phone. I don't know if they are closely involved with OpenStreetMap or OpenSeaMap, but they don't need to be. We happily let them take the data we make and they do not need to pay anyone or tell anyone they exist.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>There is also the OpenStreetMap Foundation. That's a not-for-profit organisation that looks after some servers for the database and the <a href="http://openstreetmap.org">openstreetmap.org</a> website, wiki, and a mailing list so that people can talk about the project. What the foundation says is perhaps what is "official" with OpenStreetMap, but most of the time it lets people do what they like without trying to give orders or be aware of everything.</div>
<div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 May 2012 21:14, Peter Wendorff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wendorff@uni-paderborn.de" target="_blank">wendorff@uni-paderborn.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Frans,<br>
I fear, you still don't understand many things around the OSM universe.<br>
No, OpenSeaMap is not part of the OSM project.<br>
Yes, OpenSeaMap is part of the OSM ecosystem, that is build of very few core components/services and tons of tools around, that are independent of OSM.<br>
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Core services of osm are<br>
- the <a href="http://osm.org" target="_blank">osm.org</a> website<br>
- the mapnik rendering on the osm website<br>
- the api to use by any (independent!) editor<br>
- one out of several hostings of Potlatch as one possible editor for osm data.<br>
- a forum<br>
- mailing lists<br>
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"Third party" components are<br>
- all editor software projects, including Potlatch, Potlatch2 and JOSM<br>
- most other map renderings, including openseamap<br>
- as far as I know ALL mobile apps using osm data in any way you imagine<br>
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Some of these projects are nearby the osm project, but none is "officially part of OSM" or whatever you would like to call it.<br>
<br>
If any of these projects wants to have a mailinglist in the <a href="http://openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">openstreetmap.org</a> namespace, they may ask for one, and if it's a serious project in the OSM universe, I think, it's possible to get one; but e.g. the JOSM delevopment is done "under" <a href="http://openstreetmap.de" target="_blank">openstreetmap.de</a>, therefore it's <a href="http://josm.openstreetmap.de" target="_blank">josm.openstreetmap.de</a>, even for the international audience.<br>
And it's similar for many other sub-projects like OpenSeaMap (if you're right).<br>
<br>
regards<br>
Peter<br>
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Am 17.05.2012 19:41, schrieb Frans Thamura:<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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strange why the openseamap if it is part of osm, the mailing list is<br>
not using @openstreetmap mailing list<br>
<br>
OpenSeaMap was created in 2009 in response to a great need for<br>
freely-accessible seafaring maps. OpenSeaMap's goal is to add nautical<br>
and tourism information that would interest sailors OSM, and to<br>
present it in a pleasing way. This includes beacons, buoys and other<br>
seamarks, port information, repair shops, ship supplies and much more,<br>
but also shops, restaurants and places of interest. OpenSeaMap is part<br>
of OpenStreetMap and uses its database.<br>
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<br>
the newsgroups sound "old"<br>
<br>
F<br>
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