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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Could you post the code used to generate the changesets? That would be the easiest way for some of us to review your proposed changes. It wouldn’t remove the need to explain it to non-programmers, but it would be much easier for some of us if we could look at the code.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That being said, a few concerns jump out at me<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You provide no information on why you are removing the keys that you are<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A couple of other people have expressed concern over the message sent by having a mechanical edit from the WorstFixer username. I share them. It is not enough to dismiss this as an objection that is not “valid”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A significant number of these ways appear to be from US NHD data. You should also consult specifically with the US community and develop a consensus there that the edit is worth doing, in addition to the global community. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The mapping from NHD FCode to OSM tags used for some of these imports may of not been ideal. I have been working on a better one but have not finished. I believe it would be best to exclude the US from this edit and later on (post-rebuild likely) propose an edit which includes changing tagging on untouched objects.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Worst Fixer [mailto:worstfixer@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> talk@openstreetmap.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hello.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I ask you to review my planned edit.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>There are lot of ways to tag intermittent water feature found in database. Most popular is intermittent=yes. All others come from different old imports. Date ist 2009-2010 year. I countiered ~350 000 features tagged in different such ways. Most is done by 10 users. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I ask users iandees and SK53 join discussion, as most of such tags were imported by them. Others welcome too.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I propose unification of tagging in all this imports.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Following tags converted to intermittent=yes:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>frequency=intermittent<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>occurrence=intermittent<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>stream=intermittent<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>water=intermittent<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>type=intermittent<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Following tags converted to intermittent=no:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>frequency=perennial<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>stream=perennial<br><br>stream=ephemeral converted to intermittent=ephemeral.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Just removed stream=fixme.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Converted "fdate" field from NHD imports in iso8601 date, moved to check_date tag.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Removed all id-like tags.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If no valid objections will be raised, I upload this change on 2012-06-12.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Here is overview:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Short, to get the idea: <a href="http://worstfixer.000a.biz/04-intermittent/overview-short.html">http://worstfixer.000a.biz/04-intermittent/overview-short.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Long, for exact analysis: <a href="http://worstfixer.000a.biz/04-intermittent/overview-full.html.gz">http://worstfixer.000a.biz/04-intermittent/overview-full.html.gz</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I currently looking for place to upload exact .osm.gz for a preview. Suggestions welcome.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>WorstFixer, twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/WorstFixer" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/WorstFixer</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>