<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div><br><font size="2">2012-09-18 <font face="Arial" size="2">Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org</font></font></div><div><br>> I am sure there are many users in France doing exactly that - a careful,
small-scale, high-quality data integration.<br> Most of them are probably
way below the OSMF radar.<br><br>> But if the work of one person surpasses
the million-object mark then is that still a small-scale import?<br>> How
much time does it take to review carefully a million objects? Is it
possible that a simple "JOSM<br>> did not report anything obvious" takes the
place of the careful review? I am pretty sure that above a<br>> certain
number, a proper quality review is simply not possible, and it is there
that imports start.<br><br>Frederic, many national chapters are doing a great job and we have to count on them to organize the mapping community and let it progress.The governance question we should adress is respective responsabilities of local chapters and the DWG group. And obviously, it is quite difficult to have the OSMF groups accept adressing this problem.<br><br> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;">Pierre <br></span><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"
size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> talk@openstreetmap.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Mardi 18 septembre 2012 15h38<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines & OSMF/DWG governance<br> </font> </div> <br>Hi,<br><br>On 18.09.2012 20:34, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:<br>> So you are blocking one user because other users working on similar<br>> stuff (cadastre integration) did not work correctly?<br><br>The user was not blocked because others did not work correctly.<br><br>He was blocked - for 24 hours - because he did not adhere to the import policy, was asked to comply, and chose to ignore that.<br><br>> Can you point to such issues caused by the user that was actually<br>> blocked?<br><br>Doing this would only
deviate into a discussion about whether or not certain data is "good".<br><br>I continuously read the argument that cadastre imports were not imports per se because it is a careful, small-scale, manual integration and not an import.<br><br>I am sure there are many users in France doing exactly that - a careful, small-scale, high-quality data integration. Most of them are probably way below the OSMF radar.<br><br>But if the work of one person surpasses the million-object mark then is that still a small-scale import? How much time does it take to review carefully a million objects? Is it possible that a simple "JOSM did not report anything obvious" takes the place of the careful review? I am pretty sure that above a certain number, a proper quality review is simply not possible, and it is there that imports start.<br><br>Bye<br>Frederik<br><br>-- Frederik Ramm ## eMail <a ymailto="mailto:frederik@remote.org"
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