<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div><br><font face="Arial" size="2">2012-09-18 Toby Murray toby.murray at gmail.com<br> ></font>> - Openness/transparency. OSMF working groups are notoriously opaque,<br>>> though some have improved over the last year by posting open<br>>> minutes of meetings (which requires significant effort and which I<br>>> applaud). Some of the technical measures implemented by OSMF<br>>> are well designed in this regard; for example, it is possible for<br>>> everyone to see the message posted by an admin justifying an<br>>> account block. But historical information such as the number of<br>>> blocks imposed per week are missing AFAICT
(allows people to<br>>> monitor for admin abuse).<br><br><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks" target="_blank">> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks</a><br> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Toby you have a nice list to start talking about governance, about respective role of local community. <br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I would like the Quebec province in Canada to be better organized, to know the mappers in the province and have the possibility
to contact them other then from the Talk-ca list, to know those that have problematic changesetes, to know those that are being blocked.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Would this User Blocks list help me? Surely not. Any suggestion on how to better organize, to have mappers progress and have the feeling they are in an organization where their work counts? <br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Do you suggest me that we should only let the DWG group ban some mappers and let the others do anything without an
organization trying to imporve the map?</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;">Pierre <br></span><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Toby Murray <toby.murray@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> talk@openstreetmap.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Mardi 18 septembre 2012 17h28<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines & OSMF/DWG governance<br> </font> </div> <br>On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Eric Marsden <<a ymailto="mailto:eric.marsden@free.fr" href="mailto:eric.marsden@free.fr">eric.marsden@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br>> - Openness/transparency. OSMF working groups are notoriously opaque,<br>> though some have improved over the last year by posting open<br>> minutes of meetings (which requires significant effort and which I<br>> applaud). Some of the technical measures implemented by OSMF<br>> are well designed in this regard; for example, it is possible for<br>> everyone to see the message posted by an admin justifying an<br>> account block.
But historical information such as the number of<br>> blocks imposed per week are missing AFAICT (allows people to<br>> monitor for admin abuse).<br><br><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks</a><br><br>Toby<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>talk mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</a><br><br><br> </div> </div> </blockquote></div> </div></body></html>