<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><font face="Arial" size="2">2012-09-20 Lester Caine wrote</font></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br>> Alright insisting on a 'new account' may be wrong, but identifying the
'import source' somewhere is not unreasonable?</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">> We do have the problem of
the 'language' used to inform other users and some English translations
on some of the</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"> cadastre import stuff would help?<br><br>> I will add that
I am very much opposed to any suggestion that the database should be
'carved up' and managed</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"> > by different local groups. The DWG is not ideal,
and as far as I am aware would welcome some additional help from</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">
> wherever. But that is the ideal level to oversee the whole picture and
in the end arbitrate when groups disagree</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">> amongst themselves. How many
'border disputes' will we have if we go down that path?</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I will speak for the Québec community only. Management in a large organization cannot be made centralized only and with a few rules. When we say management, we are talking about following mapping and contributors, informing, teaching, organizing social events. <br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">In Canada, we have the Talk-ca discussion list were most of the discussion is in english. And often, there are no
tools for monitoriging at regional or local level.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I am a HOT member. Our work brings us in many countries were we try to develop local communities. We have to adapt to a multitude of cultures not to talk about computer literacy and language problems.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">The Knight Foundation 575,000$ award should help to adapt Openstreetmap infrastructure to the organization. I see two interesting text written by Kate Chapman and Mikel Maron of HOT that give good
clues.</div><br>Kate Chapman, http://www.maploser.com/2012/03/29/all-i-want-for-openstreetmap-is-simple/<br><div>Mikel Maron All I want fo OpenStreetMap ... Is Social and Attention http://brainoff.com/weblog/2012/03/30/1773<br></div><div><span style="font-weight: bold;"> <br></span></div><div><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;">Pierre </span><br> <br></div> </div></body></html>