<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><font face="Arial" size="2"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">>>>> De :</span></b> Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk></font><br><br>Hi Lester<br><br><font face="Arial" size="2"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">>>>> </span></b></font>I do get the impression that the Cadastre import has it's own rules on
how to use it, and those are only available in French, which irritates.<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">You mean you would appreciate a translation of French Cadastre wiki page ?<br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">>>>> </span></b></font>But it does need to follow the generic rules, which simply allow some
tracking of where detail is sourced, and also the accuracy of that data.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Every
objects coming from cadastre have a tag source mentionning cadastre.
This is mandatory and required by French Cadastre to be integrated in
OSM<br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">>>>> </span></b></font>We have been getting some information on their process, but I still
don't understand some of the problems they are flagging as reasons for
the practices?</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Could you precise which problems you do not understand so we can clarify ?</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">>>>> </span></b></font>import processes which are simply mapping a data source into a format that can be merged.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent;
font-style: normal;">Concerning French cadastre the manual work to merged the data is quite huge whereas for CLC import it was automatically done. Do you consider that this manual work is part of the import process or not ?</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">>>>> </span></b></font>I thinks that THIS is another misconception that is causing confusion.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">To avoid confusion and misconception is there
somewhere an exhaustive clear and preceise list of objectives of Guidelines imports rules ?</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">It would be good to have such a list to be sure that we discuss about the same things and the same goals.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">It would also allow to discuss on facts and technical points and perform an objective evaluation of strengh and weaknesses of various proposal.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">For the moment I`m not sure that everyone has the same vision of what we are doing and which goals we
want to reach.<br></div><br><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">>>>> </span></b></font>Cadastre is at least two layers, the original raw data, and a processed
view of that data from which objects are 'imported' into 'osm'. Both of
those layers should be accessible for all of us to at least view</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">The original data are available on cadastre website cadastre.gouv.fr</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">The processed data are available town by town on cadastre.openstreetmap.fr</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">The data after user manual processing in order to solve issues ( coherency with existing OSM data, artefacts not detectable by processing scripts etc ) are the one sent to OSM ( Data coming from cadastre avec source flag)<br></div><div
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Cheers <br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Julien<br> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div style="font-family: Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> </div> </blockquote></div> </div></body></html>