<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 September 2012 11:02, Richard Fairhurst <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:richard@systemed.net" target="_blank">richard@systemed.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
- I only _use_ OSM data for the UK, where we don't have imports, and I'm not<br>
on DWG so I don't have to deal with the angry mails. I'm simply trying to<br>
help and getting hostile doesn't really encourage that.)<br>
<br>
Richard<br></blockquote></div><br>I was typing up a response when your email came through. I was based
around the numerous imports in the UK of Ordnance Survey
VectorMapDistrict Data. I guess I'm using a broad definition of import<br>
<br>In the UK we have available data from Ordnance Survey in Rasta and
Vector format. There is a wiki page on how we should use the data with a
requirement we "should" add a source tag.<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ordnance_Survey_Opendata" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ordnance_Survey_Opendata</a><br>For
me the main use of the vector data is adding rivers, water bodies,
coastlines, and boundaries. For these types the Ordnance Survey data is
commonly the best source, but I'd argue strongly it still needs
checking. I read the initial proposal as meaning that if I added a 3
ponds by tracing over rasta image availabe in Potlatch or JOSM it would
not be considered a "manual drawn action", but if copied the vector data
then it would fall under "automated edit" because it would be an
"imports of external data". It would not be a bulk edit but would still
require several actions I'd consider to be over the top (eg adding bot=
and bot_url=)<br>
<br>Subsequent discussion suggests that the addition of this vector data
would not be considered an 'automated edit', but I think it would help
to make this clearer. I prefer the wording used by Tobias Knerr<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 September 2012 10:51, Tobias Knerr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:osm@tobias-knerr.de" target="_blank">osm@tobias-knerr.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">
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An 'automated edit' is one where the editing is not carried out by<br>
manual drawing actions. This includes (but is not limited to):<br>
<br>
</div>- imports of external data without inspection of individual objects<br>
- any changes performed by a script/bot<br>
<br>
Of course there are special cases where e.g. a powerful editor is used<br>
to blindly do the exact same thing a script would do, but things like<br>
these are what the "not limited to" is for.<br></blockquote></div><br><br>I'd suggest changing 'automated edit' with something along the lines
of 'blind import', and defining it based around lack of inspection of
impact of individual objects. I'd slightly change one of the lines to<br>
- imports of external data without inspection of individual objects, or
consideration of impact on existing surrounding objects. <br><br>Jason<br>