<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Hi Martin,<br><br>You forgot to put the French list in cc<br><div><br></div><div>> There is generally a problem with entering data for which you are not<br>> the full rights holder and which is not in the PD. The data you<br>> import/merge has strings attached (requires attribution which may not<br>> be removed) which might lead to removal of the data in the case the<br>> active contributors choose to switch to a more open license (e.g.<br>> cc0), so it is very important that this data is easily identificable.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I was thinking that this issues was addressed by the CT providing all rights to the OSMF for data added to OSM.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Am I wrong ?<br></div><div><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"> > </span>Maybe<br><span style="font-weight: bold;"> > </span>on the server side we could allow several OSM accounts for the same<br><span style="font-weight: bold;"> > </span>email adress (not sure if this is already the case, but from former<br><span> > </span>discussions I remember that this was one of the concerns)?</div><div
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I test it few minutes ago and I confirm this is not possible.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">IMHO this is an issue.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>best
regards</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Julien<br></span></div><div><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> WinFixIT@gmail.com
<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc :</span></b> osm <talk@openstreetmap.org>; data@osmfoundation.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Jeudi 18 octobre 2012 13h10<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)<br> </font> </div> <br>2012/10/18 Jo <<a ymailto="mailto:winfixit@gmail.com" href="mailto:winfixit@gmail.com">winfixit@gmail.com</a>>:<br>> The French are integrating the data of the cadastre, their surveys, their<br>> local knowledge and Bing aerial images to improve Openstreetmap.org as a<br>> whole. They are not doing a bulk import that needs to be sorted out later<br>> on.<br>> The local community's opinion should be more important in this matter, than<br>> the opinion of one person in the UK and the DWG should wield its power to<br>> block actual acts
of vandalism, instead of annoying good contributors.<br><br><br>please also see the other side's motivation: there is good reason not<br>to put meta data into the main database but on a changeset level,<br>still your local guidelines apparently lead to filling the global<br>database up with source-tags:<br><a href="http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/source#values" target="_blank">http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/source#values</a><br>(There are roughly spoken more than 7 times cadastre source-tags than<br>there are for example source=bing tags)<br><br>There is generally a problem with entering data for which you are not<br>the full rights holder and which is not in the PD. The data you<br>import/merge has strings attached (requires attribution which may not<br>be removed) which might lead to removal of the data in the case the<br>active contributors choose to switch to a more open license (e.g.<br>cc0), so it is very important that this data is
easily identificable.<br><br>The guidelines for imports are clear (use distinct account, make an<br>information page in the wiki). IMHO this is not a very complicated<br>requirement, but I agree it could - on a technical level - be made<br>easier to manage multiple accounts. Maybe someone of the French<br>community (or someone else) has the time and expertise to code an<br>extension for JOSM which would allow to change between multiple<br>accounts on the fly or assign the edits of the same session in the<br>editor to different accounts while editing and on upload this would<br>automatically create several changesets (one for each account)? Maybe<br>on the server side we could allow several OSM accounts for the same<br>email adress (not sure if this is already the case, but from former<br>discussions I remember that this was one of the concerns)?<br><br>Cheers,<br>Martin<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>talk mailing list<br><a
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