Regardless of where the data is stored, is there a general model for how to use OSM when tying OSM-based info to external data sets? <div><br></div><div>For example, I can tie a Flickr image (or say, species sighting or flora habitat) to an OSM way with a bunch of machine tags on Flickr. That is cool, but hides the Flickr-OSM tie on Flickr and makes the OSM community aware of this not at all. </div>
<div><br></div><div>The same is then true for the species information. </div><div><br></div><div>To Mikel's point - the issue of needing to put multiple tags on the same OSM node or way is a use case that pops up in many other cases. In my local park, how (or what) would I tag to list all of the tree types in my particular park? The geo answer might be to put a bunch of nodes inside the park's boundary - e.g. node=sitka spruce, node=oak, node=larch, and then run some sort of query against the park boundary, but that doesn't tell me a lot about how those trees are distributed through the park, etc...</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm not suggesting that osm become the world's database. Just curious about best practices for tying these data sources together, and how to do it with more of a two-way publishing model, so that if I'm looking at a map view in OSM, I could understand what other data sources have tied data to what I'm observing.</div>
<div> </div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 8:03 AM, John F. Eldredge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:john@jfeldredge.com" target="_blank">john@jfeldredge.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">Mikel Maron <<a href="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com">mikel_maron@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hi<br>
><br>
> I'm interested in the topic, but haven't been contributing information<br>
> yet.<br>
><br>
> Some immediate issues that come to mind: Most areas would have more<br>
> than one species of flora, but not clear how to use the species tag in<br>
> that way. Fauna ranges are often not well defined in terms of existing<br>
> landuse tags, so not sure if it is "appropriate". Some cases could<br>
> clearly be, such as a protected area set up for a particular<br>
> endangered species.<br>
><br>
> -Mikel<br>
> <br>
> * Mikel Maron * <a href="tel:%2B14152835207" value="+14152835207">+14152835207</a> @mikel s:mikelmaron<br>
><br>
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> >________________________________<br>
> > From: Alex Rollin <<a href="mailto:alex.rollin@gmail.com">alex.rollin@gmail.com</a>><br>
> >To: <a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
> >Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 2:12 AM<br>
> >Subject: [OSM-talk] Scientific/Species Data in OSM Database -<br>
> Collaborators<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >Hi,<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >I have been looking through the wiki for more information about<br>
> "appopriate data". <br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >I would like to meet more of the people storing information about<br>
> "presence of species", flora or fauna, inside the OSM db.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >I see<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:species" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:species</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >and<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><a href="http://tagstat.hypercube.telascience.org/tagdetails.php?tag=species" target="_blank">http://tagstat.hypercube.telascience.org/tagdetails.php?tag=species</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >Any feedback about this is very welcome. We are just researching<br>
> this now.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >Alex<br>
> >Bogor, Indonesia<br>
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</div>The practicality of storing this information in the OSM database depends in part on how many species you are tracking. If only a few species are being tracked, there isn't a problem. If you try to record all of the species in an area, including the insects and microbes, then you are talking about tens of thousands of entries for even a small geographical area.<br>
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