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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">It's not directly against policy to
store all of these in the OSM DB (without F), but it's kind of bad
practice.<br>
You should ask yourself the following questions:<br>
- is the data more or less static (stays the same for a while)?<br>
- is it possible to describe species data as nodes, linestrings
and polygons, probably relations/multipolygons in a reasonable
way?<br>
- is it more easy to do that in OSM than to do it in a separate
database? Probably to help answering this question, additionally:
is the data connected to the map, or a "transparent" overlay,
which might be interesting to see in comparison to the map, but is
not connected/interleaved with it?<br>
- is the data verifyable by the average or at least by the engaged
mapper without performing scientific studies?<br>
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I guess, that most species don't have fixed areas, where one can
say "species X resides inside this area, but not outside".<br>
I think, it's more like a "this is the core area for that species,
and there's a fuzzy margin around where they sometimes occur.".<br>
Features like that have discussed before already, e.g. for fuzzy
geographical regions like the alps etc., but there's no good
solution yet, as far as I know.<br>
For species I would not use osm directly for all of the above
reasons for now: it's not static (at least for some species), it's
not verifyable by mappers, it's not connected to the map itself
(but fit's perfectly as an overlay for visualization).<br>
<br>
regards<br>
Peter<br>
<br>
Am 22.10.2012 17:16, schrieb Alex Rollin:<br>
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DB?
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:03 PM, John
F. Eldredge <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:john@jfeldredge.com" target="_blank">john@jfeldredge.com</a>></span>
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<div class="h5">Mikel Maron <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com">mikel_maron@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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> Hi<br>
><br>
> I'm interested in the topic, but haven't been
contributing information<br>
> yet.<br>
><br>
> Some immediate issues that come to mind: Most areas
would have more<br>
> than one species of flora, but not clear how to use
the species tag in<br>
> that way. Fauna ranges are often not well defined
in terms of existing<br>
> landuse tags, so not sure if it is "appropriate".
Some cases could<br>
> clearly be, such as a protected area set up for a
particular<br>
> endangered species.<br>
><br>
> -Mikel<br>
> <br>
> * Mikel Maron * <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B14152835207" value="+14152835207">+14152835207</a>
@mikel s:mikelmaron<br>
><br>
><br>
> >________________________________<br>
> > From: Alex Rollin <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:alex.rollin@gmail.com">alex.rollin@gmail.com</a>><br>
> >To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
> >Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 2:12 AM<br>
> >Subject: [OSM-talk] Scientific/Species Data in
OSM Database -<br>
> Collaborators<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >Hi,<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >I have been looking through the wiki for more
information about<br>
> "appopriate data". <br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >I would like to meet more of the people storing
information about<br>
> "presence of species", flora or fauna, inside the
OSM db.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >I see<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:species"
target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:species</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >and<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://tagstat.hypercube.telascience.org/tagdetails.php?tag=species"
target="_blank">http://tagstat.hypercube.telascience.org/tagdetails.php?tag=species</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >Any feedback about this is very welcome. We
are just researching<br>
> this now.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >Alex<br>
> >Bogor, Indonesia<br>
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The practicality of storing this information in the OSM
database depends in part on how many species you are
tracking. If only a few species are being tracked, there
isn't a problem. If you try to record all of the species in
an area, including the insects and microbes, then you are
talking about tens of thousands of entries for even a small
geographical area.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
--<br>
John F. Eldredge -- <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:john@jfeldredge.com">john@jfeldredge.com</a><br>
"Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly
is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of
Alexandria<br>
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