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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/01/2013 15:20, Richard Weait
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Tobias
Knerr <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:osm@tobias-knerr.de" target="_blank">osm@tobias-knerr.de</a>></span>
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<div class="im">Am 02.01.2013 11:41, Robin Paulson wrote:<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://store.axismaps.com/product/boston-blue"
target="_blank">http://store.axismaps.com/product/boston-blue</a><br>
><br>
> osm is mentioned on the web site, but not on the
poster itself.<br>
><br>
> suggestions, comments, etc. requested please.<br>
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I'm assuming that they only sell these posters though their
site? In<br>
that case, it is not a license violation if the site
properly attributes<br>
OSM.*<br>
<br>
If their customer then publicly displays or re-distributes
these posters<br>
without informing the viewer/recipient about the source, the
customer<br>
would indeed be committing a license violation - but for
that we cannot<br>
technically blame the original vendor.<br>
<br>
Tobias<br>
<br>
* I'm ignoring the missing link to the license for now.<br>
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Axis Maps spoke with LWG some time ago. You can probably find
them in the archives on this list as well. Attribution on the
map looks great, presuming that they made the map from
pre-change data. They also mention OSM on the site. Both of
those aspects seem good. <br>
<br>
Has anybody contacted them to find out if the data and maps are
older or newer? If one was concerned about this issue, after
seeing the attribution on the map, one could drop a note to <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:legal@osmfoundation.org">legal@osmfoundation.org</a>
and LWG will put it on their list for the next LWG meeting. <br>
<br>
Tobias' suggestion that I could not hang this poster in my home
unless I tell every visitor about the data license seems to over
reach what is required by normal copyright. I don't have to
tell you that my Picasso is a Picasso* when you come over for
Mappy Hour. <br>
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We are talking about a printed poster here, right? If I bought
one then made and sold copies, I suspect that Axis Maps would
have issues with me copying without permission, just as the
author of a book might not like me copying and reselling their
book. But if I were to copy and resell it, with the OSM
attribution on it, I can't see a reasonable
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Well, at least it looks like there is an attribution (at least from
the bigcartel cropped image linked earlier in this thread) but it's
so small so as to pretty much be invisible. More importantly, whilst
it's following the letter, it's not following the spirit of the
rule.<br>
<br>
Is there no requirement that the attribution has to be visible (or
clearly indicated), or at least a similar size to the other body
copy? Having it overlaid on graphics in a tiny point size is a
little disingenuous.<br>
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