<html><head><style type="text/css">body, p, li { font-family: NokiaPureTextLight; }</style></head><body><div id="fenix-user-content">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'NokiaPureTextLight';">Hi Paul</span></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'NokiaPureTextLight';">On the subject of bridges on abandoned railways, they can be mapped if the railway is tagged as abandoned.</span></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'NokiaPureTextLight';">Its not just old industrial cities, old railway bridges also provide height restrictions 50 years after closier.</span></p>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; font-family:'NokiaPureTextLight';"><br></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'NokiaPureTextLight';">Heres an example in rural shropshire</span></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/151765408"><span style=" font-family:'NokiaPureTextLight'; text-decoration: underline; color:#0000ff;">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/151765408</span></a></p>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; font-family:'NokiaPureTextLight';"><br></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'NokiaPureTextLight';">Phil</span></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'NokiaPureTextLight';">--</span></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'NokiaPureTextLight';"> </span></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'NokiaPureTextLight';">Sent from my Nokia N9</span></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'NokiaPureTextLight';"> </span></p></div><br><div id="fenix-reply-header"><p>On 10/02/2013 22:50 Robin Paulson wrote:<br></p></div><div id="fenix-quoted-body"><div>
i've been thinking about this for a while and it's bugging me, so i'd <br>
like to hear what the rest of you think.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>
the way we map bridges at the moment is by adding tags to the <br>
road/railway/footpath/etc., something like this:<br>
bridge = yes<br>
layer = 1<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>
which seems a bit clumsy, and doesn't reflect very well what's <br>
happening.<br>
the problem shows itself best when there is one bridge with several <br>
ways on it, for example this near where i live:<br>
</div>
<div>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.850112&lon=174.793894&zoom=18&layers=M">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.850112&lon=174.793894&zoom=18&layers=M</a><br>
<br>
</div>
<div>
and this:<br>
</div>
<div>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.850112&lon=174.793894&zoom=18&layers=M">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.850112&lon=174.793894&zoom=18&layers=M</a><br>
<br>
</div>
<div>
all of these roads/railways go over a single bridge, but from the <br>
mapping each appears to have its own separate bridge, that is one bridge <br>
per way. i'm sure there are many other examples<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>
what i would like to hear feedback on is this:<br>
perhaps we change the way we map this, and instead map the bridge and <br>
the way as entirely separate entities. so, the bridge could be <br>
represented with a rectangle, tagged as follows:<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>
man_made = bridge<br>
layer = 1<br>
name = Auckland Harbour Bridge<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>
the ends of the rectangle would be traced over the ends of the bridge <br>
structure. then the ways go over, but they no longer have bridge tags or <br>
layer tags applied to them, as they are applied to the bridge instead. <br>
it would also allow tagging of the bridge without interfering with <br>
tagging of the road which goes over it.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>
the second place this will benefit us is the situation where there are <br>
bridges with nothing on them. i'm thinking abandoned rail bridges in the <br>
ex-industrial cities of uk, where the rails have been ripped up, leaving <br>
nothing to apply the bridge tags too, but there are more than likely <br>
other examples.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>
we could maybe apply a similar logic to cuttings, tunnels and similar <br>
features<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>
so,<br>
comments, suggestions, revisions, problems, etc. please?<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>
cheers,<br>
<br>
-- <br>
</div>
<div>
robin<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.850112&lon=174.793894&zoom=18&layers=M">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.850112&lon=174.793894&zoom=18&layers=M</a> - Auckland's Free University<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
</div>
<div>
talk mailing list<br>
</div>
<div>
<a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.850112&lon=174.793894&zoom=18&layers=M">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.850112&lon=174.793894&zoom=18&layers=M</a><br>
<br>
</div>
</div><br></body></html>