<div dir="ltr">Hi guys,<div><br></div><div style>I am most likely the one who started the whole "issue" of adding relation IDs to Wikipedia at all - I created the Wikipedia templates and inserted several tenths of relation IDs to specific articles... and you know why? Because at the time I did that there was no <span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">WIWOSM (or any other usable tool for featuring OSM content within Wikimedia projects) and this was the easiest (although I understand not the best) way to connect/link Wikipedia to OSM. I understand tag query for a specific keywors(s) (probably deriving from Wikipedia article name) would be much better, there simply WAS NOT a simple enough tool to do this or at least I did not know about such a tool.</span></div>
<div style><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div style><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">The original idea was to link a page that would show a desired object in a map. </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">So the action definitely was simply a result of lack of services on OSM side. If this has changed now, I suggest we use such a tool that produces similar output (in terms of data and speed) as the current relations links.</span></div>
<div style><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div style><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Regards,</span></div><div style><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Kozuch</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/5 Andreas Labres <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:list@lab.at" target="_blank">list@lab.at</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Tim,<br>
<br>
There are different problems, let's keep them separate (vielleicht reden wir<br>
auch - Englisch - aneinander vorbei... ;)<br>
<br>
a) There is a problem in the code of <a href="http://osm.org" target="_blank">osm.org</a> how it links wikipedia articles.<br>
You can't do a link like this:<br>
<br>
$PATH#anchor?uselang=en<br>
<br>
This is bad URL syntax. You (<a href="http://osm.org" target="_blank">osm.org</a>) have to do<br>
<br>
$PATH?uselang=en#anchor<br>
<br>
<a href="https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4802" target="_blank">https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4802</a><br>
<br>
b) It is "not a good idea" to link objects in Wikipedia lists like<br>
<br>
Liste der denkmalgeschützten Objekte in Wien/Penzing#objektid-25026<br>
<br>
This object should have its own "name" in Wikipedia, which then redirects to<br>
whereever this object can be found. This shouldn't be "external" but a feature<br>
in Wikipedia/Wikidata/Wikiwhatsoever.<br>
<br>
c) The objectID I'm referencing is nothing "external", it's a nationally unique<br>
ID given by the Austrian Bundesdenkmalamt which identifies each "monument" in<br>
Austria. Therefore it's the best idea to use /this/ as /the/ reference to the<br>
given object (with reference to it being a historic monument). Alex Wagner, who<br>
created all the "Denkmalgeschützte Objekte" in Austria in the Wikipedia used it<br>
when he created the Wikipedia pages.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-at/2013-April/005542.html" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-at/2013-April/005542.html</a> ff<br>
<br>
OSM could save this objectID, say:<br>
<br>
ref:monument=AT:25026<br>
<br>
and WIWOSM then knows how to find this (uniquely identified) object in Wikipedia.<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
/al<br>
<br>
<br>
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