<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">-1 for use of the word "muggle", I prefer 'potential community members'.</span><br><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>
</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">For instance, as a JOSM user I don't need Potlatch or Id. And they do use up bandwidth and user support. I'm very happy though to be part of a community that has a rich culture of users/developers/mappers with a different perspective than I have, and thus created these editors for less experienced mappers.</span></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/7/20 Kathleen Danielson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kathleen.danielson@gmail.com" target="_blank">kathleen.danielson@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">+1 for use of the word "muggle"</p>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Jul 20, 2013 1:47 AM, "Bryce Nesbitt" <<a href="mailto:bryce2@obviously.com" target="_blank">bryce2@obviously.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Guillaume Pratte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:guillaume@guillaumepratte.net" target="_blank">guillaume@guillaumepratte.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hello,<br>
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I have been a serious user of OpenStreetMap for less than six months, and I am proud to recently have achieved my one hundredth contribution to the project. I really love the OpenStreetMap project, and I would like to replace my daily usage of Google Maps with OpenStreetMap.<br>
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But it just seems I cannot. Anybody else feel the same issues?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I feel the same issues. But at the same time I think it unwise to try and play catch-me-if-you-can with Google. </div><div>There are many tasks where OSM is better than Google Maps. I use OSM gladly for things like:</div>
<div><br></div><div>* Natural area trail maps or tracking.</div><div>* Non-commercial POIs (e.g. toilets, drinking water, viewpoints, tourist oddities, fun stuff)</div><div>* Detailed maps in pedestrian zones.</div><div>
* Printing</div>
<div>* Mapping fun.</div><div><br></div><div>------------------------</div><div><br></div><div>To date OSM is run by a group of mappers that caters to mappers. There is an unlikely but burning desire to somehow turn more ordinary muggles into mappers. It is as if the map was meant to be made, not used:</div>
<div>and it's working. Of the people I talk to and show OpenStreetMap, the vast majority have never even heard of it, and that includes land management, GIS professionals, teachers and engineers all who could in theory be interested.</div>
<div><br></div><div>What would drive more mapping would in fact be more passive users: some percentage will survive the test of fire on the tagging list and become mappers. OSM could offer high quality print exports, or one-click embeddable maps, or a dozen other compelling services. But someone would have to pay for all that bandwidth and user support, in order to glean a few more true believer mappers.</div>
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