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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">My reply is going private as it's now
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On 21/07/2013 02:17, Kathleen Danielson wrote:<br>
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style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">My
criticisms are based purely on his inability to communicate
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<div style="">Dave,</div>
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<div style="">As you say, you know nothing personally of this
man, and yet you have discerned he is unable to communicate?
Saman is not above criticism. However, we, as a community, are
above sweeping statements such as the ones you have made.
Constructive feedback is a vital part of progress, but please
be more considerate of your fellow community members who are
working hard to make OpenStreetMap.org a more useful tool for
everyone when you disparage not just their work, but them
personally.</div>
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<div style="">In addition, if you are going to take this route,
please be sure to focus your responses on ideas and products
put forth, and do not make character attacks. Having watched a
video of a presentation does not entitle you or anyone to
point out a person's "failings". </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Dave
F. <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:davefox@madasafish.com" target="_blank">davefox@madasafish.com</a>></span>
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I reject & mildly resent your criticism that I made an
ad hominem attack. I know nothing personally of this man. My
criticisms are based purely on his inability to communicate
clearly. As the primary reason for his lecture was to
explain the new layout I feel perfectly entitled to point
out his failings.<br>
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href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ad-hominem"
target="_blank">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ad-hominem</a><br>
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You appear to believe that as he has "emotions", he is above
criticism. Strange.<span class="HOEnZb"><font
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Dave F.</font></span>
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On 21/07/2013 01:42, Tom MacWright wrote:<br>
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Hi Dave,<br>
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Please be civil, we're all trying our best to be nice
and make progress here. It's inappropriate to start
ad-hominem attacking developers, especially in the case
of Saman - who is in fact a designer, not to mention a
real person, in the real world, with actual emotions.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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Tom<br>
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