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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>A quick copy/paste of the share HTML into a minimal page: <a href="http://pnorman.dev.openstreetmap.org/embed_test.html">http://pnorman.dev.openstreetmap.org/embed_test.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The redesign has changed absolutely nothing on the page of someone embedding OSM. What it has changed is what they get when they click on “View Larger Map,” they get the new page, obviously.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The general view is that the new design is much better at explaining where you’ve ended up, while showing just as much, if not more, map. Lester may not agree on this, but since most people seem to think otherwise on that particular element of the redesign, his views aren’t going to carry much weight or change anything.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ed Loach [mailto:edloach@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 04, 2013 1:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Lester Caine'; talk@openstreetmap.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'>I must be missing something. I've just tried an HTML share and the view larger map link for my test links to<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=51.80497&mlon=1.15644#map=17/51.80498/1.15644">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=51.80497&mlon=1.15644#map=17/51.80498/1.15644</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'>That still makes it clear in the very top left that this is OpenStreetMap, (and if I'm not logged in and haven't visited before AND clicked 'x' I believe I'll see a welcome box making it even clearer).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'>Checking the old layout that didn't have the Welcome box, but had the bar down the left with lots of links. Hardly an 'advert'. What is it that I'm missing? The brief description text?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><a href="http://owl.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/51.80498/1.15643">http://owl.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/51.80498/1.15643</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'>So: Welcome box: obvious, clear: "OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license." With Learn More button<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'>Old layout: "OpenStreetMap is a free worldwide map, created by people like you. The data is free to download and use under its open license. Create a user account to improve the map." Hidden away in small print between various links that you'll probably ignore if you just wanted to look at the map.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'>If I'm missing something else, try and describe the problem in a bit more detail, please?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'>Ed<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>