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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I just added this today because in the
local talk list (talk-ni) a friendly person pointed me to the
relation defining Florida
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/162050">http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/162050</a>) which is a subarea
of USA <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/148838">http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/148838</a><br>
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It made sense to me to add all the states/departamentos to the
country's relation, so I did it. But this should be irrelevant to
the rendering as the states of USA and the provinces of Costa Rica
are getting rendered properly, no matter if they are as subarea
defined in a parent relation (like it is the case in USA) or not
(in Costa Rica).<br>
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On 04/07/2014 01:29 PM, Pierre Béland wrote:<br>
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<div>In the relation for Nicaragua (id=287666), there are
objects with role subarea. For example, addition of subarea
role for Chontales is redundant with Relation Chontales
(id=2194866). I dont know if this would fix the problem, but
you could remove the redundant subarea members from the
Nicaragua relation. Developpers that know how relations are
rendered could tell what is the impact of redundant references
adding subarea elements to the main relation.</div>
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Delattre <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:maps@delattre.de"><maps@delattre.de></a><br>
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Lundi 7 avril 2014 20h42<br>
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Re: [OSM-talk] admin_level 4 rendering<br>
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<div class="yiv5317084326moz-cite-prefix">Thank you,
Clifford.<br clear="none">
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I hope I could fix those, by rechecking all the
tagging and roles ("outer" especially) in the
relations. I think this could have been the reason.
Nevertheless this phenonema of not rendering the
label of the admin_level=4 regions is happening with
all regions/departamentos in Nicaragua. Also the
ones which are not throwing an error by the OSM
Inspector [1] Please compare with the relations
which are subareas of the county's relation [2].<br
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I further added a label to one of the regions'
relation [3], using the short name for testing
purposes, and placed it where no much other stuff is
around.<br clear="none">
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Marking the tiles, close to this label node, as
"/dirty" to refresh them, would not render the
region's label... :(<br clear="none">
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[1]
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
class="yiv5317084326moz-txt-link-freetext"
target="_blank"
href="http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=multipolygon&lon=-85.04810&lat=12.23695&zoom=8&overlays=invalid_geometry_hull,duplicate_ways,intersections,intersection_lines,ring_not_closed_hull,ring_not_closed,unconnected_end_nodes,touching_inner_rings_hull,touching_inner_rings,role_mismatch_hull,role_mismatch,duplicate_tags_hull,duplicate_tags,multipolygons_type_is_boundary,type_is_boundary,ways,role_markers,way_end_nodes,way_nodes"
style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica
Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande',
sans-serif;">http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=multipolygon&lon=-85.04810&lat=12.23695&zoom=8&overlays=invalid_geometry_hull,duplicate_ways,intersections,intersection_lines,ring_not_closed_hull,ring_not_closed,unconnected_end_nodes,touching_inner_rings_hull,touching_inner_rings,role_mismatch_hull,role_mismatch,duplicate_tags_hull,duplicate_tags,multipolygons_type_is_boundary,type_is_boundary,ways,role_markers,way_end_nodes,way_nodes</a><br
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[2] <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
class="yiv5317084326moz-txt-link-freetext"
target="_blank"
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/287666"><font>http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/<font>287666</font></font></a><br
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[3] <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
class="yiv5317084326moz-txt-link-freetext"
target="_blank"
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2195081#map=8/11.921/-83.589"
style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica
Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande',
sans-serif;">http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2195081#map=8/11.921/-83.589</a><br
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On 04/07/2014 11:14 AM, Clifford Snow wrote:<br
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<div class="yiv5317084326gmail_quote">On Mon,
Apr 7, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Felix Delattre <span
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style="overflow:hidden;">I was going
over the "departmentos" (admin_level=4)
in Nicaragua<br clear="none">
yesterday. And it does not explain to me
why the names of them not<br
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getting rendered in Mapnik. Please
compare:<br clear="none">
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* Province (admin_level=4) in Costa
Rica:<br clear="none">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
shape="rect" target="_blank"
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3222919#map=8/10.747/-85.051">http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3222919#map=8/10.747/-85.051</a><br
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(label "Guanacaste")<br clear="none">
* Departamentos (admin_level=4) in
Nicaragua<br clear="none">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
shape="rect" target="_blank"
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2194866#map=8/11.792/-85.122">http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2194866#map=8/11.792/-85.122</a>
(no<br clear="none">
label "Chontales") </div>
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I noticed in OSM Inspector an error on the
Chontales multipolygon: </div>
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<th colspan="1" rowspan="1"
style="text-align:right;vertical-align:top;">layer:</th>
<td colspan="1" rowspan="1">ring_not_closed_hull</td>
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<th colspan="1" rowspan="1"
style="text-align:right;vertical-align:top;">rel_id:</th>
<td colspan="1" rowspan="1">2194866</td>
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lastchange:</th>
<td colspan="1" rowspan="1">2014-03-12T04:13:04Z</td>
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<th colspan="1" rowspan="1"
style="text-align:right;vertical-align:top;">errmsg:</th>
<td colspan="1" rowspan="1">ring_not_closed</td>
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<th colspan="1" rowspan="1"
style="text-align:right;vertical-align:top;">area:</th>
<td colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.78</td>
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<th colspan="1" rowspan="1"
style="text-align:right;vertical-align:top;">tags:</th>
<td colspan="1" rowspan="1">admin_level=4<br
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boundary=administrative<br
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name=Chontales<br clear="none">
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Fix the errors to see if that fixes the
rendering problem.</div>
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