<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Assigning local DWGs gets the job done faster in a local level as they can easily find out if the edits are vandalized due to first-hand knowledge of the data; and immediate lock out of the account can help control additional vandalized edits. And this can be performed faster as the local DWG is on the same time zone.<br>
<br></div>And having a global DWG as an escalation point would make a "final" decision in case there is a need for it. If there is a need for arbitration, this setup would be beneficial and would foster transparency.<br>
<br></div>Though most of the time, these vandals would never insist for their edits as most of the time they are just trolling around and escalation would most likely never happen.<br><br></div>Local DWGs, IMHO are beneficial for faster response.<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Richard Weait <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:richard@weait.com" target="_blank">richard@weait.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="">On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:57 AM, maning sambale<br>
<<a href="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><div class="">> Dear everyone,<br>
><br>
> This is a thorny issue bit will ask anyway. ;)<br>
><br>
> Not very often, but we do encounter questionable contributions.<br>
> Normally, local mappers would contact the specific contributor to<br>
> explain and provide guidance. But in some cases, these messages were<br>
> ignored and the contributor continues to do questionable edits.<br>
><br>
> There is a DWG [0] to resolve such issue. We do understand that DWG<br>
> members are volunteers like most of us and local issues might not get<br>
> attention immediately. I would like to discuss the possibility for<br>
> our local chapter/community to form our own sort of DWG where we can<br>
> address local concerns/disputes.<br>
><br>
> We have a few active and trusted volunteers who can discuss and<br>
> resolve such issues. But in rare occasions we think we should have<br>
> the rights to do "temporary blocks" within our local areas.<br>
<br>
</div>Dear Maning,<br>
<br>
I wrote a post on talk-us@ that addressed some of the issues you<br>
mention. It was posted in November 2013, and the link in the archives<br>
is <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-November/012171.html" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-November/012171.html</a><br>
<br>
It seems that you are doing the right things. You suggest in your<br>
email as I suggested in my post, and as others have elsewhere, that<br>
local mappers reach out to each other to discuss challenging behaviour<br>
and come to understanding and consensus where possible. Where and<br>
when that effort falls short, reach out to the DWG for further<br>
assistance.<br>
<br>
Do follow up with <a href="mailto:data@osmfoundation.org">data@osmfoundation.org</a>, if you haven't done so<br>
already. From Serge's recent post, it seems that they aren't<br>
deliberately ignoring you. :-)<br>
<br>
I suggest that you consider volunteering for the DWG, and have one or<br>
more of your trusted local mappers do the same. it doesn't make sense<br>
to me, to have a Local DWG. There is no Local Database, only the one<br>
global database. Unnecessary duplication of effort by creating a<br>
second and subservient dwg seems a poor option compared to<br>
participating in an existing dwg.<br>
<br>
Volunteers acting in their role as DWG members will strive to do so<br>
while maintaining a careful balance in many ways. One form of balance<br>
they must seek is to apply sufficient local knowledge, and<br>
understanding of local cultural and other contexts, but not to be so<br>
entwined in local context as to be inappropriately biased. They must<br>
strive to seek solutions that consider the global and local context,<br>
each in appropriate measure, as Simon indicated in his post.<br>
<br>
best regards and happy mapping,<br>
<br>
Richard<br>
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