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<body><div>These are generally called permissive paths.<br></div>
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<div>On Mon, 4 Aug 2014, at 02:55 AM, john whelan wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Whilst I think of it there are some footpaths and roads in the UK which are open to the public on 364 days a year but closed one day a year to prevent them from becoming a public right of way.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheerio John<br></div>
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<div><div>On 3 August 2014 21:47, john whelan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">In the UK there are rights of way which date back in time to the days of pack horses and long distance footpaths. I don't think you have the equivalent in North America. So in the UK a right of way may still follow a privately maintained road.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">It's probably better to leave the tagging of this to local mappers who hopefully know the rules/laws and they are different in different countries.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheerio John <br></div>
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<div><div>On 3 August 2014 21:35, John F. Eldredge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:john@jfeldredge.com" target="_blank">john@jfeldredge.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>In the USA, it depends upon whether the property owner has given permission for public use. If a private road through an apartment complex is signed as "residents and guests only", for example, an outsider driving through can be charged with trespassing.<br></div>
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On August 3, 2014 6:50:55 AM CDT, Colin Smale <<a href="mailto:colin.smale@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">colin.smale@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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> It depends whether a right of way exists. Things are rather<br></div>
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> complicated in the UK. Private means private, so no entry by default.<br></div>
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> If you are visiting an address on a private road, you have presumably<br></div>
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> been invited, explicitly or implicitly. An unofficial sign "residents<br></div>
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> only" might not have any force in law. A road in private ownership,<br></div>
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> with a public right of way, can be used though if it is a "byway open<br></div>
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> to all traffic". Landowners often object to rights of way across their<br></div>
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> land and might try to discourage their use with misleading signs.<br></div>
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> On 3 August 2014 12:43:50 CEST, Matthijs Melissen<br></div>
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> <<a href="mailto:info@matthijsmelissen.nl" target="_blank">info@matthijsmelissen.nl</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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> >On 3 August 2014 11:18, Volker Schmidt <<a href="mailto:voschix@gmail.com" target="_blank">voschix@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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> >>> Residential roads in the UK often seem to have 'private road'<br></div>
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> >>> - 'Private road'<br></div>
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> >>> - 'Private road no parking'<br></div>
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> >>> How do people tag these roads? For which of these would you use<br></div>
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> >> I would tag them all with access=destination, unless there are<br></div>
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> >> signs that forbid entering.<br></div>
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> >> A "private road" is privately owned and maintained, but you<br></div>
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> >may use<br></div>
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> >> it to reach the properties facing it as visitor or for delivery<br></div>
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> >Most private roads are cul-de-sacs, but in the hypothetical situation<br></div>
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> >where a private road connects two non-private roads, would there be a<br></div>
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> >legal reason you couldn't use the private road as shortcut?<br></div>
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> >-- Matthijs<br></div>
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