<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">It's actually quite an interesting survey by looking at the questions you can often get an understanding of what is in the questioner's mind.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">One of the most difficult bits is getting a good sample so please go back and complete it even if it doesn't appear to make sense to you.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">It does show a fair amount of bias, for example OSM is very important to cyclists but no mention is made of tagging for bicycles. Some terms are not explained well. What is a college degree for example? Colleges and Universities in my experience have different levels of entry and different qualifications this may be different in the US.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">It asks how often you map but not how many edits you have made. These are quite different values and a link to OSM to show your number of edits as well as how often you map might have been interesting.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Another problem we have is turnover, we have an enormous drop out rate. Perhaps a question of when did you do your first edit? Again a link. If we could understand this better we might keep a few more mappers.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">OSM adds value in many ways. Locally I sat down with the city officials and we looked at the city cycle path map. We then looked at the OSM map and signage and determined that many multi-use paths were not tagged as bicycle=yes. The city's own map now has three times the amount of cycle paths marked on it as it did before as a result of that conversation. The local OSM map hasn't been updated in quite the same way, locally some mappers feel that they know better than the city bylaws if something is a footpath or a multiuse path.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I quite like the wedding company that now uses OSM maps since they can print them out and hand them to people. You can't do that with Google. Yet the survey implies that only electronic apps are used for maps. Printed maps are still quite popular and the ability to take the data and render it with different rules is very important to many people.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">A strong part of OSM is mapping parties but realty is single interest mappers those who drop in bus stops with the phone numbers to call for the next bus for example often add a lot of value. Locally small businesses have added tags with their web site which OSMAND etc can link to, it breaks the Google / Bing monopoly. With an aging population could we engage them to do armchair mapping? Someone I work with creating virtual models is eighty five and getting out and about is a problem to him. However he has an Internet connection and a PC, how much do we need to map in Africa?<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">We have an issue with tags. Sometimes things are tagged incorrectly, sometimes for a particular renderer, some people will go to the OSM feature page <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features">wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features</a> some do not. It might be interesting to find out how many knew it existed or why people tag the way they do.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">The survey seems to assume that people go out and survey then map. I don't think that is the case. Some do, some just add GPS tracks, some refine the tags. Some work on software such as OSMAND, Maperitive etc. Sometimes directly, sometimes by adding a feature request. There is a whole software infrastructure that is part of the OSM environment, it ain't just maps.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheerio John<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 August 2014 15:38, Clifford Snow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:clifford@snowandsnow.us" target="_blank">clifford@snowandsnow.us</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">I had the same issue. It stopped being about OSM. Which made me suspect that his intent was other than what was announced.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I'd be willing to help the OP if he was agreeable to suggestions.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Clifford</p>
<p dir="ltr">Typos by tablrt</p><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 19, 2014 11:15 AM, "Lester Caine" <<a href="mailto:lester@lsces.co.uk" target="_blank">lester@lsces.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 19/08/14 17:47, OSMR wrote:<br>
> Thank you in advance for your potential participation and apologies for<br>
> the lengthy message in case you are not interested.<br>
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I gave up before I got half way - just seems like a load of useless<br>
crap? Anybody actually managed the whole thing?<br>
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