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    Ok, then it is the last option, my english is not good enough for
    this survey. But in this case, I suspect it will also be the case
    for many many other non-english people…<br>
    Of course people should be able to make money out of OSM. But as
    pointed out previously, in some countries, it seems that OSM only
    evolves where money is involved.<br>
    Anyway, thanks for the explanation.<br>
    JB.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 23/08/2014 16:45, john whelan a
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">>"It
          is important that OpenStreetMap keep the use of maps
          non-commercial."<br>
          <br>
          Either the survey doesn't understand about OSM or since it
          does have a subject matter specialist on board I'd be inclined
          to think its surveying the perception of the mappers.  I
          strongly suspect many think it is totally non-commercial and
          I've seen a number of businesses who didn't realise they could
          use the maps without payment.<br>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheerio
          John<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 23 August 2014 10:14, JB <span
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          wrote:<br>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hum, I was
            finally curious of what I would find there. I find this:<br>
            "It is important that OpenStreetMap keep the use of maps
            non-commercial."<br>
            Is this really a serious question, or a serious survey, or
            am I just completly mistaking about OSM since the beginning,
            or is my English not as good as I thought it was?<br>
            Sorry for the interruption,<br>
            JB.<br>
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            Le 23/08/2014 15:48, moltonel 3x Combo a écrit :<br>
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                  On 23/08/2014, john whelan <<a
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                    In an ideal world the way to get a proper random
                    sample would be to select<br>
                    OSM mappers randomly then message them.  Hopefully
                    you'd get better than<br>
                    90% response rate to keep it statistically
                    meaningful.<br>
                    Reality is you might be lucky to obtain a 2%
                    response.  So the next best<br>
                    thing is OSM-talk and hopefully he'll get the 1,000
                    responses which he<br>
                    needs to make it statistically meaningful.<br>
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                  Remember that we're sending emails and that the task
                  can be automated,<br>
                  so a 2% response rate isn't really an issue. And it's
                  much better to<br>
                  individually contact a uniformly random sample than to
                  globally<br>
                  contact a biased sample (only a particular kind of
                  contributor follows<br>
                  mailing lists). As a added bonus of contacting
                  individually, you<br>
                  already know the person's mapping profile.<br>
                  <br>
                  Here are a few proposed guidelines to keep things in
                  check though :<br>
                    * treat a survey like an import: it should be
                  community-reviewed and<br>
                  accepted before going ahead. Be transparent, be
                  usefull, be well<br>
                  writen, be multilingual, etc.<br>
                  * set target request and response counts ahead of
                  time, and stop<br>
                  sending requests whenever one of the counts is reached<br>
                  * provide a way to opt-out any future survey via you
                  osm account<br>
                  <br>
                  Any other do's and don't ?<br>
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