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Ok, then it is the last option, my english is not good enough for
this survey. But in this case, I suspect it will also be the case
for many many other non-english people…<br>
Of course people should be able to make money out of OSM. But as
pointed out previously, in some countries, it seems that OSM only
evolves where money is involved.<br>
Anyway, thanks for the explanation.<br>
JB.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 23/08/2014 16:45, john whelan a
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">>"It
is important that OpenStreetMap keep the use of maps
non-commercial."<br>
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Either the survey doesn't understand about OSM or since it
does have a subject matter specialist on board I'd be inclined
to think its surveying the perception of the mappers. I
strongly suspect many think it is totally non-commercial and
I've seen a number of businesses who didn't realise they could
use the maps without payment.<br>
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John<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 23 August 2014 10:14, JB <span
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hum, I was
finally curious of what I would find there. I find this:<br>
"It is important that OpenStreetMap keep the use of maps
non-commercial."<br>
Is this really a serious question, or a serious survey, or
am I just completly mistaking about OSM since the beginning,
or is my English not as good as I thought it was?<br>
Sorry for the interruption,<br>
JB.<br>
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Le 23/08/2014 15:48, moltonel 3x Combo a écrit :<br>
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In an ideal world the way to get a proper random
sample would be to select<br>
OSM mappers randomly then message them. Hopefully
you'd get better than<br>
90% response rate to keep it statistically
meaningful.<br>
Reality is you might be lucky to obtain a 2%
response. So the next best<br>
thing is OSM-talk and hopefully he'll get the 1,000
responses which he<br>
needs to make it statistically meaningful.<br>
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Remember that we're sending emails and that the task
can be automated,<br>
so a 2% response rate isn't really an issue. And it's
much better to<br>
individually contact a uniformly random sample than to
globally<br>
contact a biased sample (only a particular kind of
contributor follows<br>
mailing lists). As a added bonus of contacting
individually, you<br>
already know the person's mapping profile.<br>
<br>
Here are a few proposed guidelines to keep things in
check though :<br>
* treat a survey like an import: it should be
community-reviewed and<br>
accepted before going ahead. Be transparent, be
usefull, be well<br>
writen, be multilingual, etc.<br>
* set target request and response counts ahead of
time, and stop<br>
sending requests whenever one of the counts is reached<br>
* provide a way to opt-out any future survey via you
osm account<br>
<br>
Any other do's and don't ?<br>
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