<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>I have been proposing a very similar idea, where OSMdata would be used for data that is not suitable for the main OSM database, but is not notable enough for Wikidata.<br></div>For example: link objects to other databases, adding stuff like restaurant reviews, creating categories which are not suitable for relations and so on.<br><br></div>But the way I thought it would be used is to add a new item to OSMdata, and then link it to OSM with its OSMdata ID, "osmdata=Oxxx". That way the link to an object would be stable, so if you convert a node to a way, you just copy the osmdata id.<br><br></div>Your proposal to just shift the whole database to OSMdata is interesting. I think a dynamic link could also be possible. OSMdata could just query the main database when you ask it for N40983. It doesn't have to have a copy of the whole database.<br><br></div>Janko Mihelić<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-09-12 11:41 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kikkocristian@gmail.com" target="_blank">kikkocristian@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all<br>
<br>
The (long) discussion about importing Wikidata tags in OSM has<br>
prompted this idea into my mind:<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMdata" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMdata</a><br>
<br>
I have also describe here in the IdeaLab on meta-wiki:<br>
<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/OSMdata:_a_Wikidata-like_editor_for_OpenStreetMap" target="_blank">https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/OSMdata:_a_Wikidata-like_editor_for_OpenStreetMap</a><br>
<br>
Here's a quick summary:<br>
<br>
== What ==<br>
* using a MediaWiki + Wikibase - let's call it OSMdata[*] - install to<br>
host an item about every single object in OSM (following this schema<br>
Nxxx for nodes, Wxxx for ways, Rxxx for relations).<br>
* claims in a OSMdata page about an item map exactly to key, values<br>
pairs for the same object in OSM.<br>
* OSMdata is synchronized and kept up-to-date with the OSM database (read)<br>
* users can login in OSMdata with their OSM account and contribute,<br>
adding new claims this are saved back automatically in the OSM<br>
database (write)<br>
<br>
== Rationale ==<br>
* it seems awesome (!)<br>
* the OSM community gains a new editor for OpenStreetMap, an editor which<br>
use a well known interface and which can get all the benefits of<br>
MediaWiki+Wikibase software development<br>
* Wikibase is tested at 60x its current scale<br>
* Wikibase is used in another big project<br>
<br>
Let me stress again that I see OSMdata as being an editor, not a<br>
repository for OSM, in fact I image in it to be a specialized editor<br>
to be used for editing tags.<br>
In my view the idea is to provide a well known interface to edit OSM<br>
(both manually and automatically with bots, using the same bot<br>
frameworks already available for editing Wikidata).<br>
<br>
I have described this idea in the talk-it malling list (in Italian)<br>
and a (at least conceptual) similarity has been pointed out towards<br>
the textual editor Level0[2].<br>
<br>
I would like to know your opinion, and I would also like to set up<br>
some prototype with a small subset of the data. I tried to set up this<br>
myself but, unfortunately, I am blocked on the first obstacle, i.e.:<br>
how can I tell Wikibase to let me create items with names Nxxx, Wxxx<br>
and Rxxx instead of Qxxx? I do not know enough PHP (nor MediaWiki or<br>
Wikibase) to do this myself. Any help in this direction would be much<br>
appreciated.<br>
<br>
Ciao,<br>
<br>
Cristian<br>
<br>
[*] any reference to Wikidata is purely intentional<br>
[1] <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2014-September/044540.html" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2014-September/044540.html</a><br>
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