<div dir="ltr">Oleksly,<div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">>As for the inclusion, - the industry provides nowadays a large choice of</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">>alcohol-free beer, wine, sparkling wine [1]. And even alcohol-free</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">>vodka, alcohol-free whiskey, tequila, brandy, etc. [2].</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">I don't think we should be relying on the alcohol producers to be providing us with opportunities for inclusion. You're basically saying "hide the fact that you don't drink alcohol" whereas the message I got from the discussion was "we need to provide social events that don't revolve around</font><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> (at least some people) drinking alcohol".</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">If one drinks cola or orange juice at a social event, people start to</span></div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">>ask questions</span><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">You're going to the wrong social events.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Cheers, Joseph</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 5 November 2014 10:29, Oleksiy Muzalyev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oleksiy.muzalyev@bluewin.ch" target="_blank">oleksiy.muzalyev@bluewin.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Kathleen,<br>
<br>
OK. No more statistical data in this topic (just wanted to make a point<br>
that drinking is present in the traditional culture of many countries).<br>
<br>
As for the inclusion, - the industry provides nowadays a large choice of<br>
alcohol-free beer, wine, sparkling wine [1]. And even alcohol-free<br>
vodka, alcohol-free whiskey, tequila, brandy, etc. [2].<br>
<br>
If one drinks cola or orange juice at a social event, people start to<br>
ask questions, "Why you do not drink but your friends do." But if one<br>
drinks alcohol free-beer or alcohol-free wine nobody even notices<br>
(speaking from experience). Nobody usually cares to read on the label of<br>
a bottle what percent of alcohol it contains. And the bottle itself<br>
looks exactly like a bottle of a traditional beer, wine, etc.<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="http://www.alcoholfree.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.alcoholfree.co.uk/</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://shop.arkaybeverages.com/8-alcohol-free-vodka" target="_blank">http://shop.arkaybeverages.com/8-alcohol-free-vodka</a><br>
<br>
brgds<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Oleksiy<br>
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On 04.11.2014 18:12, Kathleen Danielson wrote:<br>
> Do you think that we could take the conversation on alcohol<br>
> consumption statistics to a different forum? I don't think that's<br>
> adding value to our discussion of making sure that we aren't excluding<br>
> folks who prefer not to drink.<br>
<br>
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