<div dir="ltr">How is an open source project that was open source on day one, was publicly communicated from day one, heavily explained in time-consuming technical blog posts, has 77 contributors, and has accepted hundreds of pull requests "tightly held."</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Bryce Nesbitt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bryce2@obviously.com" target="_blank">bryce2@obviously.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Tom MacWright <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tom@macwright.org" target="_blank">tom@macwright.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8000001907349px">Unfortunately, experience suggests that there's relatively little that a discussion on on the "talk" mailing list is going to be able to do here. </span>Help with development or give productive feedback on the issue tracker. </blockquote></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Productive feedback on the iD issue tracker follows a similar trajectory to that on the talk list. It's not really working there either.</div><div>There seem to be fairly deep seated differences in the philosophy of on-boarding new mappers, and those reflect themselves in iD's user interface. Since iD was awarded prime spot on osm, and since it's development is tightly held, everyone else is left with no outlet other than to complain.</div><div><br></div><div>OSM is a very open project in general, but iD's development is very tightly held and opinionated.</div><span class=""><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">FUD around editors has been discussed to death and it's clear that writing more emails won't do anything.</blockquote></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>"Fear uncertainty and doubt" implies the criticism is invalid. </div><div><br></div></div></div></div>
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